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Old 11-27-2011, 01:12 PM   #31
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I guess the only other thing I could mention is too keep pressure on the top of the kicker while kicking, if you fail to do this, then you could end up tearing off the tuffs from the carpet, I do recall many moons ago during my apprentice years I did just that, and the boss was not very happy. Lucky for me it was in a closet.

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You can probably just push the carpet tight with the kicker instead of kicking it. Less chance of tearing it and/or banging into the riser. Easier on a newbie's knee too.
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I guess the only other thing I could mention is too keep pressure on the top of the kicker while kicking, if you fail to do this, then you could end up tearing off the tufts from the carpet, I do recall many moons ago during my apprentice years I did just that, and the boss was not very happy. Lucky for me it was in a closet.
Yes of course. As you might imagine I have been watching all sorts of videos about this, and that is one thing they do stress.

Just wait 'til I get to the bedroom...500 square feet of totally weird shaped carpet to go down. I figured a little practice on the stairs couldn't hurt.
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You can probably just push the carpet tight with the kicker instead of kicking it. Less chance of tearing it and/or banging into the riser. Easier on a newbie's knee too.
Good point Rusty. My knees are full of arthritis already, they don't need any more help!

I did see a couple of videos of stair installations. Oddly enough one fellow kicked it pretty hard, and the other pushed it as you suggested. It doesn't seem to matter what you look for regarding carpet installs, there always seems to be two or three different opinions on what or how to do something.
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if you were installing your stairs all in one piece with a heavy carpet then kicking hard in necessary, but for your application of single treads only, then pushing would be sufficient as Rusty pointed out. Oh and don't forget new blades in knife....lol
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I think I must have been reading your mail fixrite! All the tools I have for the install are brand new. Even bought a proper carpet knife, along with the kicker, seaming iron, loop pile cutter and carpet seam roller.

The only tool I didn't buy is the edge trimmer. For just one room $110 + tax seemed a bit much. If I can't figure out how to cut the edges straight enough then I guess I will need to break down and buy one. I was thinking maybe just lay a straightedge hard up against the wall and cut on top of that with the knife.
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yikes.....that is a lot of money for only one house, if I had known I would of let you use mine, I also have an edge trimmer. If you want you can use my tools and return the others for a refund. I am retired (sort of and don't use them much anymore only for the odd job here and there for friends and family. I live mid island and would be fine with that.
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yikes.....that is a lot of money for only one house, if I had known I would of let you use mine, I also have an edge trimmer. If you want you can use my tools and return the others for a refund. I am retired (sort of and don't use them much anymore only for the odd job here and there for friends and family. I live mid island and would be fine with that.
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yikes.....that is a lot of money for only one house, if I had known I would of let you use mine, I also have an edge trimmer. If you want you can use my tools and return the others for a refund. I am retired (sort of and don't use them much anymore only for the odd job here and there for friends and family. I live mid island and would be fine with that.
That's a very generous offer, and I may take you up on the edge trimmer. The other tools I will keep...it's an illness that us tool junkies have. Who knows, when word gets out that I have all these shiny new tools, I may get to use them again here on the island.
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I've got another quick question about underlay...it's in the bedroom, not on the stairs.

I have read that the underlay and carpet should not run in the same direction, but should be 90 to each other.

Is that correct and why might that be so?

Would it be possible - or should I say acceptable - to have the underlay running at about 30 away from the carpet?

The reason I ask is because two adjoining walls in the bedroom are about 30 away from 90, and I would like to run the underlay up against that wall first.
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the only thing about the underlay is that you should stager your seams and not have them line up with your carpet seams.
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what kind of carpet are you going to be installing? Will you be doing any seaming (ironing)?
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the only thing about the underlay is that you should stager your seams and not have them line up with your carpet seams.
Exactly right.
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Once again, thanks you guys.

If I run the underlay against the end wall, it would merely cross the carpet joins. It wouldn't be in line at all.

And yes I will be needing two seams about 14' long and two short ones about 3' long. I have an iron for that.

It's a berber carpet, and I'm also aware that I will need the lay of the carpet to run in the same direction. This is what is causing me to have lots of waste carpet...which is going on the stairs.

One more...how far from the walls do I nail the tackless? Most seem to say the width of a strip, another says the thickness of the carpet. Is there any preference?
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Thickness of the carpet.

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