Carpet and slate tile on same basement floor

CBH

I put slate tile in the basement, and I want the other half of the floor carpet. I am now ready to install the carpet, but where the carpet ,eets the tile, how do i tack down the carpet?

Can I use regular tackless nail strips along the slate like around the wall edge?

Will it be safe to step on for my kids?

how do I finish the carpet end?


Help please....I would really appreciate anyones help on this...thanks

angus242

Step by step can be found here:

http://www.johnbridge.com/vbulletin/...3&page=1&pp=15


Good luck
Angus

CBH

Thank you Angus, very helpful. Should i just glue the carpet end to the cement between the tack strip and the tile?

dochorn

Well, not an expert on installing carpet in any way, however I will comment from our recent job installed on our stairs up to our attic. We had it installed for us and even used underpad on the stairs and almost everytime one of the kids go up the tack pokes through the whole thing and pricks them in the foot. Tack seems to be fine around the edge of a room where you don't step, however it keeps poking through on the back of our staircase. We have a curved staircase so they do step close to the back edge on many of the stairs. I don't see this being any different than a transition where you WILL step directly on it some of the time while crossing over it. So, in the question of is it safe for my kids....I wouldn't do it, not knowing what I know now.

CBH

Hmmm... interesting, thank you for replying dochorn. What kind of carpet did you istal? Mine has a higher pile to it.

Alot of pictires i'm seeing do install the tack strip in doorways and across rooms like mine. I wonder if its all carpet style.

Hopefully someone can add some experience to this this for us.

angus242

I've installed 100s of feet of tile that butts directly to tile. And while my carpet guy does his thing, I've not come across the situation dochorn describes with typical pile carpet, even in my own home. And if I'm not mistaken, the little barbs on the tack strip are actually angled away from the center of the carpet install so they shouldn't be sticking straight up. This is to help so the carpet doesn't shrink and start pulling away from it's perimeter.
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Glue should not be necessary for this type of install (if done properly)

CBH

Thank you angus242, very helpful. Any suggestions on how to finish off the end of the carpet? I think my carpet will be a little higher than my tile, as its on cement.

I think I will try and lay a bead of glue of some sort between the tack strip and tile and glue the carpet edge down.

Does this sound good/right to you?

angus242

CBH, I am not a carpet installer. I am basing my information off what I see my installer do. I have never seen him use any type of adhesive on the carpet.
I thought the link I sent to John Bridge was spot on. That's exactly what I see my carpet guy do. Has always worked for me.

Bud Cline

Gently beat the barbs down with a hammer after the carpet is stretched. The carpet will hold and the barbs will be rendered passive when walked on.

CBH

No, it was very insightful absolutely. I was just wondering how the carpet was finished...thats all.

I appreciate you taking the time to help.

CBH

Thanks Bud, thats excellent advice. I will do that

dochorn

Not sure what our guys used, but I don't recall the barbs being on any angle, I think it's old school stuff that sticks straight up. And with being pie shaped stairs if you walk to the inside of the pie you almost always step on a barb. I'll have to try giving them a little hammer across there to bend them and see if it makes a difference. Good idea!

CBH

Ok, the job is done and I'm glad to have had some help.

I got a installer in, becuse i doubted my talent, ggod thing.

First off, the underpadding has to be shiny side up, bnot down against the cement.

I should have put a nail board thing under the edge of the tile, it worked the way i had without this certain nail board, but it would have been more secure i guess with it.

All in all, good advise, but if you have doubts, get help. I'm glad I did.

tigerbalm2424

Would you be willing to post pics of the finished product? I am looking to do slate in my basement as well.

CBH

Absolutely, I will post them this weekend. It turned out very well.

I'll put more details inwhat I did, plus mistakes i made and stuff.

I'll post asap.