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KrispyDIY 03-15-2011 06:02 PM

can i install solid bamboo over sheet vinyl on concrete?
 
if it can be done .. should i float or glue? i think float but do not want floor to "move" or be wavy... or if it even would?? would vinyl act as moisture barrier? or still lay paper?
thx

woodman58 03-15-2011 08:39 PM

I would only float this floor. By glueing bamboo to the vinyl, you have to trust that it is secure enough to the floor. Without pulling it up you will not be able to tell if they used unough or the right type of glue to keep the old floor secured for life the life of the new bamboo. With the vinyl you will not need a moisture barrier.

KrispyDIY 03-21-2011 04:46 PM

thanks woodman58... so float on vinyl but what about glue board to board? How does it keep from spreading apart?

IceT 03-21-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KrispyDIY (Post 614072)
so float on vinyl but what about glue board to board? How does it keep from spreading apart?

I agree that it would be good to do a floating system, or you could nail it. If you go floating, you are normally glueing each board to the other board. Also you can keep the boards from having too much movement by putting a quality underlayment down first. Such as a rubber and that will make it feel like a soild glue down installation without the need of nailing or glueing it down.

KrispyDIY 03-21-2011 06:45 PM

hey IceT
I agree that it would be good to do a floating system, or you could nail it.

wondering what you mean by nailing it... board to board? or into concrete.? now the sheet vinyl would be the "rubber underlayment" is that what you mean?

IceT 03-21-2011 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrispyDIY (Post 614137)
wondering what you mean by nailing it... board to board? or into concrete.? now the sheet vinyl would be the "rubber underlayment" is that what you mean?

You can lay down a plywood sub-flooring and nail into that. Sorry I didn't mention that part.
For the Rubber underlayment, that is a foam or rubber that is designed for floating systems. I recommend the rubber if you want the best type of walk. The cost is a bit more than foam (about $2 sqft vs 0.75 sqft for the foam), but you will thank me later.

woodman58 03-21-2011 09:00 PM

You can glue board to board if it is a locking system.I'm not sure how well it would hold together if it is tounge and grove.

KrispyDIY 03-21-2011 10:20 PM

thanks IceT, if i were to add the plywood then yes i would definitely nail it but my whole question was can i install over the sheet vinyl and use vinyl as the barrier like woodman58 commented.. so instead of "rubber" use the vinyl??:huh:
its not locking so i was a little wary of glueing board to board floating or not....
so still a little confused...

woodman58 03-22-2011 06:36 AM

There are some woods that the T&G can be glued together. I have not worked with them. Have you checked with the manufacturer? They will be the best source for this info.

KrispyDIY 03-22-2011 02:29 PM

thanks woodman58

IceT 03-22-2011 03:51 PM

If you float the floor, you would need a foam or rubber to under the floor. So you will need something more than the vinyl if you are going to float it.

KrispyDIY 03-22-2011 04:24 PM

the vinyl is foam (spongy) and 1/16" thick .. that okay?

RiverOaks 03-22-2011 05:03 PM

Vinyl sheet flooring can not be used in place of the foam underlayments needed for a floating system.

Mikef5000 03-22-2011 05:48 PM

If it is a straight tongue and groove (like almost all solid flooring is), you do NOT want to float that. The only flooring that should be floated is that which has a lock mechanism rather than a straight tongue and groove. Like the picture below.
http://www.hoskinghardwood.com/uploa...atingboard.jpg
Buy a lock together bamboo made for floating, and lay it over the vinyl with a layer of laminate underlayment in between. No other method will be recommended.

Mikef5000 03-22-2011 05:49 PM

Picture error in the above post. Here it is again:

http://www.hoskinghardwood.com/uploa...atingboard.jpg


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