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Old 10-14-2011, 11:55 PM   #1
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Can I float a laminate floor over 40'+?


Hi all, I'm getting ready to floor a new construction 2100 sf Modular home by myself. The wife wants vinyl but I havn't ruled out an engineered hardwood/laminate. (I've had experience with laminates, vinyl laminates (allure) and Peal & stick and am familure with the in's and outs of each.) So here is my issue, I have one large open ( but not rectangular )space that is max 42' long 13' wide (with some areas up to 26' wide). I've read/been told that floating floors like allure shouldn't be put down in areas over 25' in either direction. So would I be asking for trouble if I layed a floating floor over this kind of expanse?
Would a peel and stick be a beter choice?
If so, what are the best P&S products out there?
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So would I be asking for trouble if I layed a floating floor over this kind of expanse?
What does the product manufacturer say about this?

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What does the product manufacturer say about this?

There are none!
Armstrong is a good P&S but I wouldn't put it in a large era like that,... I would really look into using floating for that large spot as well.
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Just told at Home Depot that I can spread Allure Ultra (floating) vinal up to 40' with no expansion T joint. ( Still need to confirm with factory though.) Good news there but the allure ultra product I tried (bought a box) only had 4 patterns in the "test" box I purchased. Not sold yet.
Right now the Allure Ultra and Manington Adura (glue down) plank are in the running.

A couple of new questons on your answers Gents.
So is it peel and stick in general that you jents dislike or is it a non floatign/adheasive held plank that you feel is undesireable in this sized space?
IF so, is it an expansion /shrinkage issue?

Any additional info greatly appeciated. I'm talking a considerable investment in time and cash here to do an entire house so don't want to blow it
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Just found out that I can spread Allure Ultra (floating) vinal up to 40' with no expansion T joint. Good news there but the allure ultra product I tried (bought a box) only had 4 patterns in the "test" box I purchased. Not sold yet.
Right now the Allure Ultra and Manington Adura (glue down) plank are in the running.

A couple of new questons on your answers Gents.
So is it peel and stick in general that you jents dislike or is it a non floatign/adheasive held plank that you feel is undesireable in this sized space?
IF so, is it an expansion /shrinkage issue?

Any additional info greatly appeciated. I'm talking a considerable investment in time and cash here to do an entire house so don't want to blow it
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I don't dislike P&S if you get the right pattern and fallow the pattern it's works good.
I've use alot of none glue vinyl but only small kitchens & baths
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Regular peel and stick (12x12) are usually of poor quality. They aren't consistent in size, will shrink over time and don't stick very well. They are really only a temporary floor covering.
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Sorry if I threw a match in the grass here....
FWIW, I'm familure with the 12x12 tiles and have them in two small baths right now. They have held up fine except for a touch of shrinkage . I d understand that a $0.99 /sf floor tile is not great quality or a lasting solutions.
My question was more along the lines of vinal planking.
With 3 rowdy dogs and a son in a 300# power wheelchair, I'm leary of sinking $16K into hardwoods. For my application there are NO perminate solutions.
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Rusty, since your a certed Armstrong installer, can you weigh in on your opinion of the Armstrong Luxe (better or best) planking? It too is an option for my needs.
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FWIW, I called Halstead (makesrs of allure) and thier CS girl wasn't sure on how far either Allure or Allur ultra could float. She checked with her supervisor who told me "it could be run to "indefinate distances as long as the subfloor was level and smooth."
Not sure I buy it but I've decided on a glue down plank (Manington Adure) anyway. Once I got a test box of the Allure Ultra home, it's color flattened right out in natural sunlight. Almost chalky looking. Odd since the std Allure doesn't seem to have this deficiency.
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Somebody needs to have a talk with that boy. NOTHING can be installed "indefinite distances" without accommodations for expansion and contraction. Was her supervisor the warehouse custodian?
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Somebody needs to have a talk with that boy. NOTHING can be installed "indefinite distances" without accommodations for expansion and contraction. Was her supervisor the warehouse custodian?
Kinda makes you wonder.
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