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havetime_4fun 08-10-2006 11:21 AM

Can I ceramic tile over linoleum?
 
I have a cement floor in my kitchen w/ linoleum over it. I'd like to tile over the linoleum versus trying to pull up the old floor. If that won't work what's the best way to pull up the old? I laid that with adhesive a couple years ago. Hope someone can Help! Thanks in advance.

signed- havetime.

redline 08-10-2006 12:32 PM

vinyl tile
or ceramic tile?

havetime_4fun 08-10-2006 01:49 PM

Sorry,.
 
I'll be installing ceramic tile.

Bonus 08-10-2006 02:44 PM

No you cannot lay ceramic tile over lino. When you put the lino down did you use some sort of underlayment? Like 1/4" particle board or plywood? If so the easiest way to get up the lino is to pull the underlayment. Then you likely need another layer of plywood, then cement board and then tile.

LanterDan 08-12-2006 03:09 PM

I took up a linoleum kitchen floor a couple of weeks ago. I used 6" ice scrapper and it came up very easily. The floor was 26 years old, so maybe that had something to do with it, as it the glue was very brittle and would break up easily. The 1/4" masonite beneath the lino was a very serious pain to take up though.

I've seen several cases where people have tiled over existing lino and vinyl, so if I wouldn't say it *couldn't* be done (if the lino is in good shape, but if it is then why are you replacing it?), but I woundn't recomend it.

Bonus, I don't see why you are laying plywood and cement board down. Assuming his concrete floor is in good shape (flat, no active cracks) I think you should be able to tile directly over that (with some sort of vapor barrier).

747 08-13-2006 12:25 AM

If he has a cement floor. Best ways is to get down to cement. Then spread some kind of thinset or something you guys no what i mean over that cement floor and lay the cement board over the thin set or thick set before it sets up than mesh the seams then slap some thin set or something over the mess tap let dry then your ready for tile and acourse the thin or thick set of your choice. That is the a experience tile guy would do it. Oh and acourse screw down that cement board.

Bonus 08-13-2006 02:07 AM

Lanterdan, mea culpa, missed that in the post. No ply/cbu nec.

747, where you bin? We missed ya.

R&D Tile 08-13-2006 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 747
If he has a cement floor. Best ways is to get down to cement. Then spread some kind of thinset or something you guys no what i mean over that cement floor and lay the cement board over the thin set or thick set before it sets up than mesh the seams then slap some thin set or something over the mess tap let dry then your ready for tile and acourse the thin or thick set of your choice. That is the a experience tile guy would do it. Oh and acourse screw down that cement board.

NO CBUs over concrete.:no:

747 08-13-2006 08:52 PM

I just seen them do it like that on hometime 5am saturday morning. I guesss they didn't do it rite.

msjay2u 08-21-2006 06:01 PM

why do you even have to put a sub floor down? I ripped up the linoleum in my kitchen and applied the tile directly to the cement slap floor and it came out wonderful. I did this in my kitchen and my patio.

Tony1963 09-12-2006 01:54 PM

Although it is not recommended, it is possible to lay over lino if you are sure the lino is solid. It is always best to remove the lino to prevent the possiblity of the tiles coming up over time. However I have been remodeling homes for over 23 years and have consistantly layed tile directly to concrete floors using only thinset and have NEVER had any problems, all my floors have stayed just fine and as I guarantee my work always, it is not in my best interest to do shoddy work. Forget all the extra underlayment it is not needed. Follow the KISS procedure : Keep It Simple Stupid.

Floorwizard 09-12-2006 11:15 PM

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Keep It Simple Stupid.
I agree with that when used with reference to "work smart not hard".

But it just seems to me that installing over lino or installing over concrete without an anti fracture membrane is just a bigger risk. A risk I personally would not make it my own home.
Mostly because I would always be waiting for the grout to crack, or the slab to move.

Donedat 09-14-2006 09:47 PM

Shouldn't be too hard to remove the linoleum. There has to be a loose corner somewhere on the floor where you can grab hold of a pull.

MikesterSTLMO 01-22-2008 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 747 (Post 16050)
I just seen them do it like that on hometime 5am saturday morning. I guesss they didn't do it rite.


Grammatical Correction:

You mean you recently SAW this task perfromed on HomeTime at 5am Sat morning and you are assuming they didn't perform it correctly.:thumbup:

Floorwizard 01-23-2008 11:34 AM

Definately SAW it because the post is way old :)


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