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Old 07-06-2009, 10:36 AM   #16
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Old 07-07-2009, 08:45 PM   #17
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I had the same thing happen- I pulled up the old ceramic tile and saw that it was laid right over lanoleum. I pulled both up and then put down the tile backerboard and retiled it. Never had a problem with cracked grout in three years.
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Old 07-08-2009, 04:27 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by carol elizabeth View Post
Thanks for the replies. I am afraid I'll have to take the floor up and install a new one. As far as I can tell there is not leak (dish washer broke too). Everything in the house was new except the structure. So it appears that the subfloor is the issue. Carol Elizabeth
I've researched replacing my worn linoleum kitchen floor with tile and the tile manufacturer's recommendation is to install at least 1/2" thick concrete board (sold in 2'x4' pieces at HD and Lowes) to get a firm subfloor for ceramic tile. I take it that ceramic flooring was originally planned when the house was built, most subfloor are not suitable for installing ceramic floor over it. When I figure out the cost, I can see that a proper subfloor being a significant portion of a properly installed ceramic tile floor.

So, unless you know you have a really solid (feel like concrete) subfloor, I wouldn't proceed with replacing the ceramic tile unless that's fixed. Otherwise, the new ceramic floor can just crack along the grout lines again.

My kitchen floor sags under the kitchen sink, and I suspect I need to prop up and reinforce one or two floor joists underneath that portion. The sag sort of developed as the house settled. Since I don't know when settling stops, I'm concerned that settling can sag a floor reinforced for ceramic flooring.

So, that's one more thing that needs to be checked. Good luck.
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Old 07-08-2009, 05:19 PM   #19
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First of all, commonly stocked cement board is typically 36" X 60", 32" X 60" and 48" X 48".

No cement board would offer any additional structural support what-so-ever. It is merely a suitable tooth for the tile adhesive. Cement board that is 1/2" thick is no more advantageous than cement that is 1/4" thick.

Installing cement board IS NOT the answer to the problem. The problem is structural and no cement board will help with that.


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