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Old 07-05-2009, 09:44 AM   #1
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Hi
This is my first time posting. I need some advice. Among many other things my kitchen floor(Ceramic Tile) many of the tiles are cracking in many places and the grout is falling out all over my kitchen. What is happening and What can I do?

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hi and welcome to the forum!
if you intend to tear out the old tiles and put in new flooring, your options are many!
if you intend to try repairing/replacing tiles, that's another story.
either way, you'll find plenty of friendly folks here willing to offer advise along the way. Po)


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You need to find the root cause.
What other "wall/floor symptoms" are you having?
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Most likely cause is that the sub flooring (the flooring material under the floor) is not stiff enough and/ or is not properly secured, or the structure supporting the sub flooring is not stiff enough.

Other possible causes include an incorrect and/or incorrectly installed type of adhesive material holding the tiles to the floor or a leak from a source such as a dishwasher, refrigerator icemaker or sink which is causing water to wick into the sub flooring.

The only way to diagnose the cause is for somebody who understands how the tile should be installed to inspect the current installation - if there is access to the floor from underneath they may be able to determine the cause from below, otherwise it will likely be necessary to remove tiles to diagnose the problem. (Sometimes, you can determine the cause by examining exposed sub flooring, tile, and adhesive under a dishwasher or base cabinet).

When there is extensive failure of a ceramic tile floor covering for any of these reasons, it is usually necessary to remove the tile, correcting the underlying cause of the problem, and then reinstall new tile to effect a permanent repair.

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not knowing the age of the home, it's possible old age is the culprit too, things get dropped, grout crumbles from old age and moisture spills over the years.

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And has what caused this gone away or is it continuing?
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what caused it may be the people that sold it to her!
in which case, i'd HOPE they've gone away! lol

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what caused it may be the people that sold it to her!
in which case, i'd HOPE they've gone away! lol

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Thanks for the replies. I am afraid I'll have to take the floor up and install a new one. As far as I can tell there is not leak (dish washer broke too). Everything in the house was new except the structure. So it appears that the subfloor is the issue. Carol Elizabeth
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you'll find out when you tear up the tiles then. you might be surprised at what you find!

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DO NOT remove those tiles thinking all you have to do is to install new tiles. That floor structure as it stands IS NOT SUITABLE for a tile installation at this time. That doesn't mean it can't be done with additional research and minor improvements.

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My hallway they installed tile over an old plastic tile floor
In effect it created a floating tiled floor, grout all cracked
My sub-floor was fine, just stupid that they left the old tiles & expected the new stuff to stick to a shiny glossy surface
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Don't know that I have ever seen a plastic floor tile.

Installing tile over existing tile is done all the time with great success but of course certain conditions must be met.
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Up until I saw them I had not either!!
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