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Eusibius2 08-23-2011 02:17 PM

Basement floor - another leveling question for laundry area
 
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We bought our house 2 yrs ago and the "laundry room" in the basement needed a home. We've always had remodeling this area on our list, but seemed to be at the bottom of the list. Last week, we came across a deal on brand new cabinets for VERY cheap, so we grabbed anything we could that matched, and we ended up with 5 pcs of various sizes.

We always had wanted to have some cabinets (mostly lowers, few uppers), and a sink in the laundry room for various reasons. Well, now we have the cabinets, picked out a countertop (we think) and a sink to go along. Now we don't know what to do with this next - crucial - step.

Our basement floor is concrete, and sloped like most are. It has about a 1" variance from the highest to lowest point, and is relatively smooth, but perfect in any way (some hills / valleys). Currently, this helps to make our washing machine 'walk away' every time we use it. So we need to level the floor. We don't really want to level the ENTIRE floor, just the area underneath where the washer/dryer would go, and also where our base cabinets would go. Attached are pics of 1) current layout, and 2) what our initial thought is.

The house is 60 years old, and we're pretty simple people. We are not going to lay down carpet, or even hardwood floors. Either tile (of some kind) or simply use throw rugs for the remaining areas. Simple is great, long term is best. Although we're simple, we don't want cruddy quality.

We figure it's about 4.5 - 5 cubic feet of build up material (if using self leveling concrete). I don't know how I would build a frame to contain it in that shape though with the sloped flooring... ??

Any suggestions? What other options do we have? What could we do? Thoughts and advice is most appreciated!

Bud Cline 08-23-2011 02:30 PM

Frame/form it level, close any openings at the bottom of the frames/forms and dump the concrete in there.

Are you sure you want to use Self Leveling Compound? That wouldn't be my first choice for three reasons.

1.) Cost.
2.) Limited thickness with each application.
3.) Cost.

Concrete mix would be better and a lot less costly.:)

Eusibius2 08-23-2011 04:43 PM

Thx. I forgot to mention, we have very little head room to give up as the ceiling is only 7'6 and we are both 6'0....

Eusibius2 08-23-2011 08:09 PM

Question... how do you close any gaps between the 2x4 forms and the uneven floor? I know this sounds dumb, but how do I build a form / frame? Do I need to use 2x4 or can I use something as small as 1x2?

I do have good carpentry skills, but concrete is totally new to me.

No, I don't need to use self leveling concrete, but thought I would need to. Just regular concrete will work?

Bud Cline 08-23-2011 08:19 PM

How thick will your concrete be at its thickest point along any form?

I'm thinking...lay a 2X4 on its flat side. You'll have to fasten it down somehow without distorting it. May need to use some shims. Then the gaps that turn up under the forms can be filled with foam-rope to keep the concrete from seeping under the form.

Once the concrete has set but is still green and fresh, wreck the forms so you can dress the front edge that was against the forms and foam rope.:)

The edges can be rubbed with a rubbing stone.:)

Eusibius2 08-23-2011 08:36 PM

Maybe an inch or two at its thickest. We haven't actually measured that part yet....

Bud Cline 08-23-2011 08:39 PM

Using 2X4's would give you approx 1-1/2" +. If you keep the topside of the 2X4's level you can strike-off your concrete to that elevation.:)

You would have to screw the 2X's into the concrete a few times.:)

Eusibius2 08-23-2011 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bud Cline

You would have to screw the 2X's into the concrete a few times.:)

Sry, but screw into the new / wet concrete, or the floor concrete?

fixrite 08-24-2011 01:26 AM

I would make the forms out of 2x4 and then use concrete blocks to hold it in place till it sets or is somewhat green, then remove and dress the front to smoothen it out. If you wanted to screw it down in place I would screw your forms to the existing concrete floor. Then fill the holes after all is said and done.

BlueStoneFloors 08-25-2011 09:37 AM

And if all of this sounds like Latin to you, hire a concrete guy:)

Eusibius2 08-25-2011 09:59 AM

Nope, it all makes sense now. I'm still wondering if I have other options though besides concrete.

Making forms and pouring concrete sounds simple enough (but not necessarily easy) . I'm sure I could handle it. Its only the basement afterall, so perfection isn't a requirement. Lol

BlueStoneFloors 08-25-2011 10:58 AM

Concrete is the best option in this situation, but it's not what I'd call an easy pour. You could build a frame out of 2x6's or similar for the raised platform, but getting it level and sitting secure on a multi-planed surface is going to be difficult. Washers/Dryers are heavy and with the vibration, your platform is going to be tested time and time again. Seriously, getting this done by a pro won't cost that much more, I wouldn't pour this myself and I've done lots of concrete. If you're not experienced then it's going to look real rough on the finishing work, but that's fixable if you want to tile it :) Not trying to scare you, but I would get some bids and see if it's even worth it to tackle yourself. If you decide to have a go at it, the guys on this website are really knowledgable so listen closely. Good Luck:thumbsup:

Eusibius2 01-28-2012 01:54 AM

A quick follow up:

I got a quote for $600 to do the concrete. I said done deal, but we haven't scheduled it yet. Cheers!


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