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Old 11-09-2009, 03:54 PM   #1
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I have a balcony over my patio and it warped, cracked and leaked. I ripped out the old stamped concret and plywood. I need help in stacking of materials. I want to install 3/4 plywood with tile on top. Any suggestion is appriciated.
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Old 11-09-2009, 04:30 PM   #2
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The ledger looks wayyyyyy to light as do the joists. I would plan to start from scratch. What you have doesn't even look safe without the load of tile. Unless the framing is a whole bigger than it looks in the pictures, this is a disaster looking for a place to unfold.

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Old 11-09-2009, 04:34 PM   #3
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Where are you located?
What is the span distance & distance between beams?
It does not look sturdy enough to hold tile without cracking
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Old 11-09-2009, 04:43 PM   #4
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Where do you live? Does it get below freezing there?

The stamped concrete was a failure because there is no waterproof membrane under it.
Concrete and tile are not a water proof surface,they must have a membrane under.

Your deck structure does not look strong enough to support tile with out flexing and breaking the tile.

I could be wrong about that,might just be the pictures, Good luck on that--MIKE--

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Old 11-09-2009, 06:23 PM   #5
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Thanks for the quick reply guys. Here are some more pictures. The balcony is 14' x 22' and the joists are 34" apart. I am in California, so there is no snow or freezing here.
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Old 11-09-2009, 06:50 PM   #6
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The 32 inch span worries me--even with 3/4 t&g topped with 3/4 T&G ply you will get more flexing than a tile can take,

However--you are an adult so you can make your own decisions.

I do not recommend tiling this ,If you decide to do it any way-Use a waterproof membrane,flash in the deck like a roof,so no water can ever reach the decking and swell it.

Use a small tile-6x6 or 8x8--hopefully the grout will give a little when the decking flexes.

Water must never ever reach the decking -any swelling will pop your tiles loose.

Some one here may be able to offer you a suggestion for a decking system that will give you the waterproof 'roof' you need for the lower patio that can take the flexing of the upper deck system.

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Old 11-09-2009, 08:11 PM   #7
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You need more joists to cut down that spacing to 24" or less, then we'll talk about how to build & waterproof the subfloor for tile.

Not crazy about that overhang either, no outside support, I would think about something else besides tile.
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Old 11-10-2009, 02:01 AM   #8
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I am not fixed on tile ( i rather not). Just want something that does not leake down and is not wobbly to walk on. I have been searching the internet for all kinds of flooring for a balcony, but cant realy find anything other than tile. I was hoping to find someting i could just roll out. Any suggestion is higly appriciated. Oh, and the planks you see in the pictures all have to be removed as well, they all have water damage.

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Just a thought--What you are really doing is building a roof top deck--google that- see what you get.
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First I would agree with R&D that the first step is to solve your joist issue. After the joist are cut down, you will be able to tile over it. I would suggest Schluter Troba. (http://www.schluter.com/7_1_troba.aspx). It is a sub surface drainage system. It allows the water to flow freely to the sloped waterproofing layer and out the drainage exit. With the proper deck, drainage system, and joist spacing, you should have no problem tiling the area. Good luck.
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Just ran across a few interesting ideas--So I decided to wake up this post.

The OP (original poster) probably has his plans made-however a lot of people would like to stay dry under the upstairs deck
Check these out---- under deck waterproofing - Google Search
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Old 02-06-2010, 07:32 AM   #12
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better strengthen the deck supports - you already mention ' wobbly ' so nothing'll be any good if that's the case,,, we've done several decks w/thin-stamped polymer-modified conc but there's a membrane down 1st follow'd by expand'd wire mesh & TONS of staples.

' ecofriendly ', in this instance, would best be defined as only doing it once

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