Bud Cline

Jesus help us all!


That's the first mention of introducing chemicals that would effect cutback adhesive and besides THAT still doesn't explain your comment about "ASBESTOS VAPORS". That's what I want to hear about is those nasty asbestos vapors.

thekctermite

ManMythLegend, before this thread jumps itself off a cliff, let's establish that there are not going to be any "asbestos vapors". There's no hazard in leaving that flooring in place and doing excatly what 26yrsinflooring has described. Heck, there's no hazard in leaving it and using it for your floor if you wanted to.

Wonderboard and Ditra combined might be overkill, but I'm all about a little overkill. Nobody can or should argue that it would yield a great finished product.

As for Holmes being an idiot, nah. A corporate puppet, maybe so. But, they guy goes in and re-does other peoples' work. Personally I enjoy his show quite a bit....I deal with hacks every day...I find his work and his views somewhat refreshing. Besides, his name was simply brought up as a TV resource for the OP to see what Kerdi is.

thekctermite

I don't think anyone ever mentioned "asbestos vapors". He's been talking about vapor emissions from the cutback adhesive being potentially damaging to flooring materials.

26yrsinflooring

Asbestos Vapors? are we on the same thread Bud?

I never said anything about asbestos vapors.

I said cutback that contains asbestos will emit VEs.

Asbestos is not a vapor form, it is a solid, but you know that you are just trying to trip me up.

Good try there pal!

Bud Cline

In this thread discussing what to do about floor tiles suspected of containing asbestos...


That's all I know!

thekctermite

This is becoming non-productive and argumentative.

You guys are both great people at helping the OP and ManMythLegend with their asbestos floor issues, so can we please get back to doing that.

ManMythLegend

Nugenton...Really sorry about stealing your thread and all the BS in it.

26 years...Thanks so much for your help. My floor looks better already. I put the durock on a bed of mortar and it's not much higher at all, but it's definetly not going anywhere. I'm on a timeline and can't really swing the ditra...good advice always falls on deaf ears like a shotgun love song. Screwed it down and now I'm taping seams. Gonna be a long night...

****EDIT: Offensive statement removed by TheKCtermite****

KC Termite...How's my old hometown

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26yrsinflooring

I don't Let Bud get to me He is real pro in his own right.
He is one of the better tile pros in nation as far as I am concerned and he is old school. He is one of the few old pros that has seen the benifits of the Ditra and Kerdi systems.
He is just a little grouchy sometimes

I try to compile data from all phases my years on the floor. then apply each lesson I have learned, (many of them the hard way) the each situation I encounter.

Being a second generation installer gives me an intrest to solve new issues as they come to bear. I think of the box that my mentors could not break out of due to prodecure and protocol and look for ways to avoid closing the lid on myself.
This in turn brings a state of enlightenment when you realize you have reached a feasable conclusion and it will work.

The more enlightening the job becomes the greater the intrest grows.
I find the activity of one style flooring to be boring but when you can solve the carpet and vinyl problem and the wood problem on the same job then set the tile as you are leaving it takes the monotony from the conclusion.

We must ever expand our venues to stay in touch with the progression of the industry. I am a floor guy,if I step in to the carpenters chair I am out of place.
However if I listen close to what the carpenter is saying I can learn from his experince and I know I will find the use for his suggestions on some future situation.

Bud Cline

Hugh and I have known one-another for some time now and we sometimes do-battle. I think we both know it is all in good fun and for the sake of dispensing accurate information. In this case he didn't manage his words with diligence and left himself open for me to take a shot.

I wouldn't spend any time taping seams until it was time to install the tile. Taping seams ahead and allowing them to dry without installing the tile just creates some additional hardship potential.