Allure Vinyl Flooring - DIY Chatroom

Ash74 · 01-04-2008, 09:19 AM

Here's the deal....

I work at a Home Depot in Columbus Ohio. I've been in flooring for a number of years and I know my stuff but Im always looking for ways to better educate my associates and my customers.

Recently I've been looking into the Allure vinyl flooring. We had a customer that bought around 50 boxes to do their whole first floor then got cold feet when it came time to install. Because this is considered a DIY product, our installers in this market will not install Allure Flooring.

Everything Ive seen on this product looks like it would be simple to install but the cust returned the floor and went with something else. Install aside, Im leery of the claim that the product is truly "water resistant".

What I would like to know is what everyone else thinks about Allure, good and bad. I've read a couple messages on the boards here so far so I know we already have a mixed bag.

Thanks for your time and your thoughts.

mike costello · 01-04-2008, 09:28 AM

Jury is still out. Its a new unproven product.

No offence , but the fact that only HD carries it would be enough to make me leary of it

Ash74 · 01-04-2008, 10:08 AM

No offense taken.

Allure is HD exclusive but the type of floor and the technology is not. There are several other, more expensive products that work the same way (although the names escape me for now... they're mentioned in another post on this site so I'll look 'em up real quick).

Here we go: Konectousa.com has a similar product in a larger variety of styles than HD. Armstrong also makes a similar product.

Rehabber · 01-04-2008, 10:41 AM

I have now done 3 installs of Allure. It is a relatively simple install. and looks nice when finished. My customers each chose it, and had me install. They are all pleased with the results. I believe it to be well within the average DIYer's ability to install. They will need a tap weasure, razorknife, speed square and straightedge and go for it.

Ash74 · 01-04-2008, 11:38 AM

Thanks Rehabber (love the Icon)

I saw you talk about it in another post and Im glad its worked well for you.

**Floorwizard** · 01-04-2008, 01:32 PM

Usually HD carries exclusive products that are made by good manufacturers but sometimes are not as high a quality.
Perhaps this quality is not as good of an install as other higher brands.

JoeClark · 11-12-2008, 05:51 PM

I just got some of this for my kitchen floor and I'm just wondering one thing.

Some of the linoleum is peeled up on the existing floor. Do I have to remove all the rest of the old stuff or can I just go over it? I am worried that you will be able to feel the transition on the new floor.

**Floorwizard** · 11-12-2008, 06:43 PM

Should be able to go over the top.
It may be needed to float out the holes from cutting back-

JoeClark · 11-12-2008, 07:18 PM

FYI... here is a pic to give you an idea of what I'm dealing with.

**Floorwizard** · 11-12-2008, 07:35 PM

Only if every question came with a pic!

No need to float that out.
Lay over the top and color it done!

JoeClark · 11-12-2008, 07:41 PM

Awesome, thanks for the input!

26yrsinflooring · 11-13-2008, 12:21 AM

Allure is Konecto.... They sell it under the label Halsted.
It has 4 mil wearlayer so it is the bottom of the barrel, I can rip the wearlayer with my hands.I keep a piece of it in my desk to show why the upgrade lines of Konecto are such better quality.
It is all in the wearlayer. Konecto's wearlayer cannot be ripped with your bare hands, high heels,dognails etc....
The design series is sold only to the wholesalers and retailers it will never be available at HD.
People do not realize when they shop at HD or Lowes they get what they pay for.... cheap product.
These mills do not make them better deals, they thin the product out, sure it sounds like a good deal, not as good as you think.

Just like hardwood: I installed for both Lowes and HD in my career as an installer and many times the wood I installed was subgrade seconds sold at what seemed like good prices but you could have gotten the same quality wood at a trash wood outlet like Lumber Liquidators much cheaper.
I have first hand knowledge that HD intentionally got all the culled cabin grade wood from Bruce and they sold it as first quality store stock instead of the seconds it was. I heard it from thier own mill reps.

Let me tell you what else the box stores do. They get small companies with great products, then get them to sign contracts that they will not sell to other retailers. One day some big shot in the company decides to get it knocked off cheaper and private label it or even worse they discontinue it ... now that small company that had all its eggs in one basket is out of business. Ate up by greed that is supported by the masses.
The box stores have run many small lumber yards out of business and brought more chinese wood to our shores than should ever be here.

The EPA was raised so many restrictions on our plants it is cheaper for them to move production to China than to take the chance some rouge EPA agent will shut them down.

This is why Konecto cannot be made in America thank your local goverment and the EPA

JoeClark · 11-13-2008, 12:28 AM

It does have a 25 year warranty, which is about 20 years longer than I plan on living in this house.

So, as long as it looks good for a few years, that's all I care about.