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Old 01-12-2010, 07:07 PM   #31
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Looking good. Before you completely cover the foam board by the water supply, remove the plastic vapor barrier from both sides of it and leave just the kraft paper inside. Otherwise, 2 v.b. and a vapor retarder in one wall with cold water pipe to condense there. It needs to dry to the outside.... Keep up the good work.

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Old 01-13-2010, 12:34 AM   #32
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Looking good. Before you completely cover the foam board by the water supply, remove the plastic vapor barrier from both sides of it and leave just the kraft paper inside. Otherwise, 2 v.b. and a vapor retarder in one wall with cold water pipe to condense there. It needs to dry to the outside.... Keep up the good work.

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Drat! Didn't think of that, but makes perfect sense. Well, easy enough to get back into the wall to fix tomorrow. No drywall up yet (alas, that will take some time...).

Thanks for catching that Gary.

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Old 01-13-2010, 12:41 AM   #33
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What a beautiful job your doing! are you putting in some sort of "access panel" to get in there a little easier if needbe? while the joints you re did came out perfect i would still be leary about the rust/corrosion on the others. i would guess alot of that is from the pipes being damp from the orig leak but it just scares me.
Good point. I think the copper corrosion is in fact from the very damp condition over a long period of time while the leak was small and undetected. However, looking at it in person, I don't think the remaining joints are at risk.

That said, I'd hate to tempt the plumbing gods! Also, I've been wondering how to get drywall over the attached shutoff. Figured I'd have to shut the water off and remove it when the day came -- same issue/concern for the sink shutoffs and drain.

I'm not sure what I'll do yet. I'll probably drywall it off, with reckless confidence, but also with the knowledge that it's easy to cut into drywall if needed, and install some type of alternative cover then.

Alas, it may take some time to get to that point...
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Old 01-13-2010, 12:49 AM   #34
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I've discussed my concerns about the Federal Pacific breaker panel. However, I seem to have discovered another issue that's already generated a 3-page thread in Electrical!

While planning for the upcoming panel switch, I figured I'd also correct an issue with my "sub-panel" that was noted in my home inspection report when we bought the house in late 2008, but which I've been putting off addressing due to other priorities. So I posted a question about it last night, and... well....... -- okay, I won't get into details here. If interested, check out the thread at Neutral & grounds on separate bus bars?. Plenty of photos.

Tomorrow is another day.
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turn off the water supply and drain the system by opening a tap or two.
remove the valve in wuestion with wrenches.
cut hole about 1 1/2 "
place drywall
replace valve and turn on water (check for leaks)
cover hole with an escutcheon (sp) after tape/mud/paint if supply line is visible
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Also, I've been wondering how to get drywall over the attached shutoff. Figured I'd have to shut the water off and remove it when the day came -- same issue/concern for the sink shutoffs and drain
If its behind the counters I just cut a piece for the bottom, then put the matching piece on top
Small cut out for the pipe
Caulk/mud the 2 pieces together to seal them
I don't do any more soldering then I need to, especially if its a hidden pipe
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I'd replace the old supply valves with new 1/4 turn off/on ones if only for the fact yours are 30+ years old. Or at least new washers and stem packing.... Buy new poly flex supply lines and stainless steel flex for the clothes washer supplies, too. Keep up the good work!

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I love 1/4 turn shutoffs, so will convert there whenever I can. Last year, when I installed our Insinkerator instant hot water system (got addicted to them years ago; missing it now!), I had to replace the kitchen sink cold water shutoff with a 3-way, I couldn't find a 1/4 turn valve. That was looking at the orange and blue big boxes. Since then, I've discovered the local plumbing supply shops. Never again!

Not much progress today. Removed the insulation from the wall seciton with the foam board, removed the board, ripped off the plastic on both sides, and re-installed everything (thanks GBR for pointing out that I'd missed that point). Other than that, I put a bonding screw in my 2nd electric panel. Yup, lots of progress today!

...Okay, I also spent some time contemplating next steps: Fixing up electrical issues for both panels. What lighting scenarios we might want for the kitchen. Whether to jump into building my own cabinets. Will I tear down the "fur downs" (aka "sofits,", aka wasted space above wall cabinets). How to deal with the flooring. Timing, timing, timing......
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Chuckle...... that last picture must have been for me. Carry on........

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Well, better its caught & fixed before the walls are closed in

One reason we have left the kitchen for the end
We want to spend more time on it & make sure everything is in place that we want
Of course also had to build the sunroom & additiona as they border the kitchen & effect the finish

Undercabinet lights, trim, doors - we are making one of ours bigger
Knocked out a wall to the sunroom
Look at your entire kitchen & decide what you want to do
We've spent a lot of time looking at cabinets & layouts
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One thing I would like to add for those who are considering wall cabinet replacements.

If you have sofits, nothing much will change if you opt for cabintes "to the ceiling," however, if you DON'T already have sofits, and choose "To the ceiling" cabinets, you will have a very noticeable difference in the heat in your kitchen.

When we replaced our kitchen cabinets, we opted for wall cabinets that went to the ceiling, and the tempature in our kitchen, when we cooked, went WAY up because of the lost "heat holding space" over the cabinets.

The cabinets sent to heat right back into the kitchen. (entire room)

I realize that this is a small thing, but in our case, it was powerful enough to require us to add additional ventilation.

The impact was awful, and this was in a room that was 14' wide, and 32' long. (Kitchen, table & chairs next to that, and family room next to that.

By the time dinner was ready, no one wanted to sit at the table and eat.

Considering cabinets is a serious business, and I thought that I would share our experience.

You have gotten so much done! Congratulations!
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Old 01-16-2010, 07:57 PM   #42
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Wow, looks like you have quite the winters project going.Since the whole cavity was open I would have replaced all the copper tubing, it looked like it needed to be done anyways. That way you would not have to worry about it sprouting another leak after you've seal it in. What's another $10 bucks in copper. Good luck
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Not sure if you are aware, But there is gold in them there old breakers.

The "black market" is alive and well in fed pacific breakers.

I knew I had $ 600.00 + "retail" worth of braker in the old Fed Pacific box I was replacing with a Sqare D.

I put a $50.00 sticker on the old box and breakers at a garage sale. It was one of the first things to go.

Do not toss the old breakers in the trash..

have fun with your project.
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Wow, looks like you have quite the winters project going.Since the whole cavity was open I would have replaced all the copper tubing, it looked like it needed to be done anyways. That way you would not have to worry about it sprouting another leak after you've seal it in. What's another $10 bucks in copper. Good luck
Well, guess that's so. I identified that the joint that leaked failed because the tube wasn't seated properly in the coupling. Evaluating the remaining couplings, it seemed that they were much more sound. I figure that, if they ain't broke, and don't seem like they're going down that road, don't fix it.

I hope you don't ever have the opportunity to say "I told you so."
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Not sure if you are aware, But there is gold in them there old breakers.

The "black market" is alive and well in fed pacific breakers.

I knew I had $ 600.00 + "retail" worth of braker in the old Fed Pacific box I was replacing with a Sqare D.

I put a $50.00 sticker on the old box and breakers at a garage sale. It was one of the first things to go.

Do not toss the old breakers in the trash..

have fun with your project.
Wow, I just checked out eBay, and saw over 400 hits for FP breakers. Maybe it's just me, but who would be so desparate as to buy USED breakers?? It is tempting to get some salvage bucks out of the panel, but I don't think I could sell these things in good conscience. After all, I'm getting rid of the panel because I'm CONCERNED THE BREAKERS WILL FAIL. I can't foist them upon someone else!

It's a shame -- I could use the extra bucks... But nope, mine are destined for the trash. (Just to make sure, I might take a sledge to them first; wouldn't want a trash pilferer to make money when I'm avoiding it ).

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