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Old 01-04-2012, 12:29 AM   #121
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FINALLY!!!

The electrical inspector made it out this morning and told us everything was great no problems. asked him if that meant we passed and he said yes.

I finally heard back from home depot on the insulation you recommended cocobolo and got the price for the basement. Hubby wants me to wait til he gets the plumbing supplies then get the insulation for the basement.
Suppose to be warm tomorrow so I will be up in the house chinking around the outlets that are in the log walls.

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FINALLY!!!

The electrical inspector made it out this morning and told us everything was great no problems. asked him if that meant we passed and he said yes.

I finally heard back from home depot on the insulation you recommended cocobolo and got the price for the basement. Hubby wants me to wait til he gets the plumbing supplies then get the insulation for the basement.
Suppose to be warm tomorrow so I will be up in the house chinking around the outlets that are in the log walls.
That's a big step having the electrical approved.

If there is to be plumbing in the basement, then you would rough that in before you did the insulating.
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Alright.
I was thinking of insulating the wall where the tankless water heater and the water softner is going to be placed.
The rest of the walls except for in my cold room will be plumbing free.
Just going to do the exterior walls for now and then do the interior walls when we are hanging drywall.
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Alright.
I was thinking of insulating the wall where the tankless water heater and the water softner is going to be placed.
The rest of the walls except for in my cold room will be plumbing free.
Just going to do the exterior walls for now and then do the interior walls when we are hanging drywall.
You lost me there a little bit.

Why are you going to insulate interior walls, unless of course they back up against a cold room, in which case you would.
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Logluvr,

Could the logs have been sawn straight from the plantation. If they were, I suspect the logs were very green and had a high moisture content. If you then applied an oil based coating (stain), as they say, oil and water don't mix, you have a problem from day one.

The logs should have been kiln dried and pressure treated with preservatives, They then could have been stained, after the moisture content is reduced to 12.5%.

As you will discover, when green wood dries out, it cracks and shrinks, that's why most house timbers are kiln dried first to stabilize the timber. I'm afraid, I'm stumped as to what you can do about the problem. You see, pine rots quickly if not protected, coupled with wet & dry rot, fungal attack and pine borers, you may have to find a good quality solid paint (I can hear the shrieks as the original finish looked really good), but a stain just won't do the job.

Woods that weather naturally and require little maintenance and are rot free are expensive woods like cedar and teak. I would suggest you talk to a timber merchant association and get an opinion as to what you can do with the pine.

Sad that I couldn't give better tidings, as the house was put together in a logical and sound fashion, and you should be commended for the effort you put in. Hope I'm wrong or misread your photos!.

Cheers, joe from oz.
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Joe these logs were fire killed trees. When we first stained the house we had treated them with Board Defense a couple weeks before staining. The moisture in the logs with the exception of the end of the bottom log everything was under 12% moisture when we stained them.
They had also been curing for a year before they were even cut for our house.
If you look at the knot pics I posted you can see the char from the fires.
This last stain is holding up nicely.

Cocobolo sound proofing between the kids bedroom's and the bathroom. Son has a drum set. A little noise reduction would be nice. Just to keep the noise factor down a bit. I know it will not be sound proofing, but if the noise is reduced enough that I do not have to kick both kids out of the house for stereo wars all the better.
My cold room will be insulated on the interior walls and the ceiling. Gotta keep those homemade pickles cold.
I was talking about the insulation along the exterior wall where we plan to put the tankless water heater. Sorry if I was confusing.
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Logluvr.

Thanks for the explanation. That means if the wood was relatively dry, the first stain applied was faulty. That's a relief to know.

The only other comment I would make is to keep a close eye on how much water is entering the external cracks in each log.

Enjoy your new home!

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Joe these logs were fire killed trees. When we first stained the house we had treated them with Board Defense a couple weeks before staining. The moisture in the logs with the exception of the end of the bottom log everything was under 12% moisture when we stained them.
They had also been curing for a year before they were even cut for our house.
If you look at the knot pics I posted you can see the char from the fires.
This last stain is holding up nicely.

Cocobolo sound proofing between the kids bedroom's and the bathroom. Son has a drum set. A little noise reduction would be nice. Just to keep the noise factor down a bit. I know it will not be sound proofing, but if the noise is reduced enough that I do not have to kick both kids out of the house for stereo wars all the better.
My cold room will be insulated on the interior walls and the ceiling. Gotta keep those homemade pickles cold.
I was talking about the insulation along the exterior wall where we plan to put the tankless water heater. Sorry if I was confusing.
I hear you about the kids and things like drum sets!

I play around with the bass guitar and my wife always manages to get the occasional comment it about the noise.

If I remember correctly, there was a Holmes on Homes show some time back about some kind of drywall which has very good sound deadening qualities. I don't remember the name of it...but in his demonstration between two adjoining apartments the stuff was amazing. That might go a long way to helping as well.
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Joe we sealed the larger log checks with caulking and tried to fill the smaller ones with the oil based stain.

Thanks cocobolo. I'll take a look around on the internet and see if I can find which one you are talking about. Was that the show with the couple living in a condo or townhouse and they could hear everything their neighbors said and did?
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Seen the sound deadening drywall at the Big Blue before. I recall it being in the range of $25-30 a sheet for 1/2". That's a pretty steep premium on my budget.

Edit: QuietRock is $46/sht at Lowe's. I recall watching an episode of Income Property where they used resilient channel to great effect... <removed my comment on Holmes' attitude..>
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Thanks cocobolo. I'll take a look around on the internet and see if I can find which one you are talking about. Was that the show with the couple living in a condo or townhouse and they could hear everything their neighbors said and did?
I'm not really sure, but it sounds like it.
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Got the outlet boxes and light switch boxes chinked.

Discovered when the inspector was here he shut off our well to our upper corral and our cattle were out of water. oops!
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cocobolo got the insulation ordered today suppose to be here in 9 to 14 business days.
*sigh*

waiting again.
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It got here yesterday and I picked it up today in some pretty nasty weather. It was -22 this morning.
Stopped off and got some better tie downs to keep it in the truck and a very nice man offered to give me a hand.
I know I got a bit of frost bite on a couple areas of on a couple of my fingers when we were doing that. I sure hope that guy is ok.

Got all that insulation unloaded and started putting it up. Pretty much all that is left is the ones that need to be cut to size. I'm betting we can get that finished tomorrow. Should make a difference. It was only -14 when I got home.
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It got here yesterday and I picked it up today in some pretty nasty weather. It was -22 this morning.
Stopped off and got some better tie downs to keep it in the truck and a very nice man offered to give me a hand.
I know I got a bit of frost bite on a couple areas of on a couple of my fingers when we were doing that. I sure hope that guy is ok.

Got all that insulation unloaded and started putting it up. Pretty much all that is left is the ones that need to be cut to size. I'm betting we can get that finished tomorrow. Should make a difference. It was only -14 when I got home.
We need ,more pic's please!!

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