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Old 07-21-2011, 12:42 PM   #31
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cocobolo I power washed some off, but we also had some strong thunderstorms with driving rain that took some off too.
I called our builder and he recommended both sikkens and TWP (Total Wood Protection) stains.
I got samples of both and we really liked the TWP. No topcoat involved because it is oil based and you just re-apply it as needed.

Even where there were no cracks it failed.

Have a check log on the east side that bothered me because of how big it was, so last year after I had stained and clear coated the log I did a quick fix with about 3 tubes of silicone. I know it is better to use chinking or caulking, but at that point it was use what we had on hand. Winter was coming fast.
The stain has lifted and the silicone is peeling away from the check. So I started to remove that so I can put in some backer rod and caulk it.

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I agree with your builder in that you would be better off with an oil based stain, they do have tendency to ward off the rain better.

What a shame that you are even having to go through all this. If you get a chance to look at the Cabot stains, I think you will find it worth your while.

Sikkens products I am familiar with, but not the TWP. There is another environmentally friendly stain recently out on the market...cannot remember the name right now, but I'll look it up and see if I can pass that along to you as well.
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This is the one company I was talking about above, but I had no idea they were into log homes as well. You might find something of interest here...

http://www.sansin.com/log_homes.html
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Sorry, I should have given you a link to the Cabot products as well. I have experience with this on a Pan Abode home locally. If you aren't familiar with Pan Abode, it's sort of a poor man's log cabin.

If I remember right they use a double T & G system with about 4" x 5" pieces of wood. The outside edge is given a rounded over look to imitate a real log. Nowhere near the size of your logs, but it achieves the effect. I think we used about 8" ardox nails to spike them together with.

www.cabotstain.com/
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Thanks cocobolo. I had found Sansin stains while researching the TWP stain.

The guys made it out today and just about got the entire east side done. Coming back tomorrow to finish it and get started on the north side.
I'll have to get pictures to show you all this. On the bottom 4 logs where the stain was the heaviest applied there are areas where the stain would not come off and it left a raised bump on those logs. I don't mean a couple little spots, but alot of spots.
Took my pocket knife and scraped them and they just dropped off. The guys cannot media blast it anymore or it will take off more of the logs then we want.
Going to grab a sander and start knocking those things off. Just those 4 logs. Really weird.
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It sounds like you're making some progress at least. Make sure you get some pics of them doing the blasting operation, there just might be several people interested in this.

Let's hope you end up with what you wanted in the first place!
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I'd go with Sikkens as well. When I worked for the log home builder, that is what we used. I also just put some down on my cedar deck this spring. Great product. Pricey though!
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Another random plug for Sikkens. I used it on the bare teak trim of my fishing boat that I keep on the Chesapeake. Five years on, sitting out in the open sun and salt year round and it looks like the day I applied it. Nothing short of amazing.
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I'd go with Sikkens as well. When I worked for the log home builder, that is what we used. I also just put some down on my cedar deck this spring. Great product. Pricey though!
Which of the Sikkens products did you use No. 1?
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Another random plug for Sikkens. I used it on the bare teak trim of my fishing boat that I keep on the Chesapeake. Five years on, sitting out in the open sun and salt year round and it looks like the day I applied it. Nothing short of amazing.
Sikkens makes Cetol for your purpose, so I will assume (I know, I know...) that this is what you used. It is aimed at teak specifically.

It has a tendency to yellow the wood somewhat, which is not at all objectionable on teak. On mahogany, which is used on many boats for the trim work, it doesn't look quite as nice.

For many years I have used it out on the west coast on boat teak, with similar results. It will last up to 7 years in that application, but - as I suspect you well know - the wood must be prepared well to get that sort of longevity.
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no1hustler tried that carpet bomb. The e-mail addresses I have tried keep coming back.
Betting anything they are blocked.
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Here are some pics I took this morning.

East wall


Stain that will have to be sanded off


This is what I was talking about cocobolo where even with the media blasting it is leaving some spots with stain. You can see that it is raised.


East side again


North side started. They were going to have to leave above that first window due to the winds we have today. Safety reason.


Blasting away
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Yes, I see just what you mean about those little spots...

I must say that the cleaned logs look much better than with that stain on them. Have you made any decision as to what you might be putting on the logs after the guys have finished up?
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We are going to get the TWP stain. Our builder liked both it and sikkens, but he said he just liked TWP more.

Also after power washing the grit off we are going to re-treat it with the Board Defense.
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It might be an excellent idea to do a small test section first...just a thought.

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