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Old 08-10-2011, 09:35 AM   #1
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Welp, this is my last project I need to finish to get my final building inspection.
I'll post progress pics and with the help of you great guys here, hopefully catching any potential booboos, I may actually get this done!
Here's a drawing of approximately what I need to build. (Thank You AndyGump)
oh'mike noticed the original drawing had the handrail too high, so that was the first thing to consider and I edited the drawing to show lower handrails.
My first thought was to have the landing about 6 or 7 inches below the threshold of the front door. It is to be free-standing, although I do have a ledger to attach the frame to if needed/required. I plan on using a few lag screws to do so. Here is the first plan, the red places are where I'm not sure how to attach wood to wood/hangers to stringers, etc. The second pic is the adjusted height handrail. More pics to follow.

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Old 08-12-2011, 12:13 PM   #2
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Is anyone familiar with the Simpson LSU26Z stringer hanger?
How is this supposed to be attached and with what nails?
The indicated stamp would seem to indicate that it needs a nail at a 45 degree angle? That would probably need to be a 10D 3" galv. common, right?
Also, what do I attach the faceplate to the header with? the joist hanger 1 1/2" with the number 10 stamped on the heads? (shown)

Thanks guys! Has to be right for the inspector, don't you know!

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The link Ron posted pretty well takes care of the nail sizes. I have never used that type of hanger, they keep coming out with new ones all the time.
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Thanks Ron, that's the 'octogon' hanger all right, but when I click on "show me the instructional video", it's NOT the one they show how to install!

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I click on "show me the instructional video", it's NOT the one they show how to install!

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What did it only take 20 min. to find that out with dial up?

I've never used that hanger either.
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Right, so I figure, for each hanger, 12 10D common galvanized, 45'd in as shown in the video for the face (header), and 5 stamped #10s for the joist holes, 45'd in? (except the bottom one, which is shown 90'd) Right?

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Okay, I KNOW this is wrong. 3 or so inches at "A" and 6 or so at B?
How far can those hangers go down? Do I need to add a 4' 2X4 under the header and lower the stringers?

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Those 10d 1 1/2" nails are just standard joist hanger ( tico) nails.
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Right, that's what the video showed for the joist nails, the 1 1/2".

The octagon plate to header nails were the 3" 10D commons at an angle... weird, huh?

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Yes, you need to add something down there and lower the stringers.
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Looking good!

I had to add a 2x4 to the bottom of my joist when I first started building my stairs (I ended up changing my mind and making the first step flush w/ the top of the landing but that's another story altogether), it's a PITA when the joist is already in place.

I'm a big fan of the free standing, that's how I built my deck, my friends still stop sometimes and go "uhh .... is this attached to the house?".
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I agree with Kwikfishron in adding a 2x4 below. How wide are your stairs going to be? are they going to be as wide as the landing? My reason for asking is because I only see 2 stringers which I do not believe is enough.( hard to tell with just a pic, the drawings don't state width)
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3 stringers, 3' steps.

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Welp, this is my last project I need to finish to get my final building inspection.
I'll post progress pics and with the help of you great guys here, hopefully catching any potential booboos, I may actually get this done!
Here's a drawing of approximately what I need to build. (Thank You AndyGump)
oh'mike noticed the original drawing had the handrail too high, so that was the first thing to consider and I edited the drawing to show lower handrails.
My first thought was to have the landing about 6 or 7 inches below the threshold of the front door. It is to be free-standing, although I do have a ledger to attach the frame to if needed/required. I plan on using a few lag screws to do so. Here is the first plan, the red places are where I'm not sure how to attach wood to wood/hangers to stringers, etc. The second pic is the adjusted height handrail. More pics to follow.

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That hand rail should be 36’’ high. Also your railing can also be 36’’ in height because you’re not over 4’-0’’ from grade.

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