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Old 08-20-2013, 08:37 AM   #31
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No pool. Just the ponds. I know I would need a large pump to move the water up 8 feet to the top of the waterfall. I was expecting to see an electric bill of $100 a month similar to a pool.

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Old 08-20-2013, 09:05 AM   #32
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You can figure out the approximate cost of your pump, by the wattage.
How many watts your pump is x how much you pay per KWH.

If your pump uses a 100 watts -- in 10 hours it uses a 1000 watts per hour and that would be a KWH.
Then look on the electric how much you pay per KWH...(I hope I'm explaining this right)

We also have a 1000 and a 2500 gph pump...We only use the 1000 per hour pump on the waterfall when
we have tourists visiting. I rather like a series of small waterfalls.
I mention this cause you can just use a couple of small pumps like we do
and use the big pumps on ocassion for impact.

How long is this pond empty? Is it EDM liners? It's not good to keep them
empty.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:21 PM   #33
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It has water in it. The previous owner did not take care of it so it has leaves etc in it. I am in the process of emptying it to clean it. I was trying to decide if I should fill it back up or leave it empty. I was under the impression I would need to keep the big pump running contantly to sustain fish. If I could get away with some smaller pumps I would consider it.
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Do not leave it empty, the liner will dry out and be ruined.

If you're not putting fish in it until Spring, you do not have to run any pumps.

It's kind of late in the season to add fish anyhow. After you clean the pond and add
water -- the pond needs to cycle first and develope good bacteria or the fish
will not survive.
Do you have a bottom drain? If you do is it a gravity fed system?
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fed system is when the filter tub(s) are at the same level as the pond.
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:52 AM   #35
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I believe it is a bottom drain. There is a filter tub at the top of the water fall and another even with the big pond as well. I do not know much about the whole set up yet. I need to get it completly empty and explore a bit.
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Terrific, a bottom drain is essential in a large pond. It circulates the water
24/7 from the pond through the filter tubs, thus trapping all the waste
in the filter tubs. There is no need to ever empty your pond for cleaning.
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I have a koi pond and have been in the pond hobby for a while now. If it has not already been mentioned in this thread, here are a few pointers.

1. You need an air pump to go in your pond as well. Simply having a waterfall is not enough. Get a good air pump made for ponds, they're usually $100 or more, but they'll come with everything you need.

2. Stay away from goldfish, just get koi. Goldfish breed like rabbits and it becomes very difficult to keep your pond the way it should be. Koi don't breed as much. For some strange reason, my koi only seem to have 1 baby per year. Odd. Anyway, you don't want too many fish in your pond. There is a set number of fish that you can have, per 1000 gallons. Otherwise death and disease will run rampant. Just like with people, you don't cram 50 people into a 200 square foot room and have them live there. Bad idea. I have a 3,500 gallon pond, and I keep 10 koi. Its more than enough to see them all the time.

3. You want some kind of shade, or cover that the fish can get into. I have a pergola covering my entire pond. They don't like direct sun very much. They need a place where they can get to the shade, even if your pond has a lot of algae. Another benefit of a covered pond is the fact that birds will try to eat your fish. Those big cranes can be a problem, and once one of them has found your pond, you will have to kill the bird. It will keep coming back until it has eaten all your fish. If your pond is covered by something, the birds can't see it from the air. Trust me I've had to shoot several of those damned birds. You don't want to have to do that.

4. You need some kind of bio-filtration. You need a 55 gallon drum filter, for every 1,000 gallons of pond that you have. This is THE ONLY thing that will kill your algae problem. You have all this media in the drum, that the water flows through. It houses bacteria that will eat all the nutrients in the water. All the fish waste. Without those nutrients, algae cannot survive. If you do not have a bio filter, DO NOT kill all of your algae with chemicals or whatever. The algae are feeding on the fish poop. You either need a bio filtration setup, or you need your water to be green and murky with algae. One or the other. If you kill all the algae with chemicals, your fish will essentially be living in a big toilet full of their own bodily waste. That's not how you would want to live. Once you have your bio filters set up, count on at least 6 weeks before your water starts to get clear. At least. This process can be sped up however, by introducing the correct bacteria into your water. You can buy it at a pond store. It will make its home in the filter and speed up the process.

5. Do not overfeed your fish. But don't underfeed them either. Koi are hungry carp, and they kind of eat a lot. If you don't feed them enough, they'll snack on your water plants. They may do it anyway. I'd keep plants that they don't really like the taste of, like cat tails and water lilies. Some of those nice fancy plants they sell at the pond stores will be gobbled up in no time, and some of them are actually poisonous to your fish. So make sure any plant you put in there can be safe for koi to eat. Google will help you with that one.

6. Koi can be tamed to eat from your hand, but this is a long process and it takes a lot of patience and time. The best way to do it is have them in a fish tank when they are little, and only let them eat out of your hand. Their hunger will overcome their fear and they'll get used to it and eventually it won't bother them anymore.

7. You can't put tap water in your pond, you have to dechlorinate it first. Kind of obvious but hey. A lot of people have killed a lot of koi by just running a hose into the pond with no de-chlorinator.

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