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Old 01-24-2009, 12:50 PM   #76
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Thanks for the reply, respect your privacy... will continue to enjoy your work..
the pictures are great. As to the plumbing, its all good once we are done with it.
Cheers, Simply Sal (will take your advice)

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Old 01-25-2009, 12:24 PM   #77
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in preparation for lifting sheets of chipboard onto the ceiling, i made this "deadman's" lift. its name is given for reasons other than you think.

ok, you got me.. it is what you think. the thing is scary!


after ONE try my wife gave up. screaming and scared.. we decided to use 2 ladders instead and we just lifted the sheets into place. this worked MUCH better. haha..

the hole around the light box is cut a bit bigger to make chipboard install easy. the tin ceiling will cut in right to the edge of the box perfect and hide the small gap. i put a bead of PL400 subfloor adhesive along the ceiling strapping before i screwed the sheets onto the ceiling. this will help keep the surface flat and hold tight for centuries.

NOTE: bottom left corner you see a electrical junction box. this is for above cabinet lighting which will shine up on the tin ceiling.


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Old 01-25-2009, 12:51 PM   #78
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I actually use a dead mans lift in addition to ladders
Its nice to have something to take the weight off while you secure it in place
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Oboy, am I glad you posted that. Last night my wife and I tried to lift a sheet to the ceiling exactly as you did. She cannot lift any weight to speak of past her shoulders. So we were not successful. Then I made up a 7 1/2 foot tall sawhorse which I will put one end of the sheet on, then jam a deadman under the other end, then go back to end number 1 and nail that up. I hope.
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we have made two "lifts" as we call them" helps take the weight off the end you are attaching and easier on the arms
the cost of a "gypsy" to rent is reasonable usually... takes a full sheet and just turn it up... I am thinking of your wife
P.S. we use screws if it is drywall you are installing.

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I am aware of using screws for drywall, this is OSB same as Knucklez.
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gotcha, wasn't sure.. How are you finishing your OSB?
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It may sound crazy to you all, but I am using it wrong side down. First it gets a light sanding with a pad sander. Then two coats of Kilz primer, then two topcoats of Popcorn white flat latex by Dulux.
I am thinking now of cutting the sheets smaller, still haven't decided for sure.
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nothing is ever crazy if you get what it is you want... sounds interesting to me. Smart to flip the sheets so you get good paint retention.
Do you want to cut the sheets for appearance or ease of installation?
How do you like the Dulux paint? I used it once on a project and was impressed with it. My regular paint is Cloverdale as they give good discounts for non profit housing projects and I find it equivalent to General Paint.

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My wife chose the Dulux about a year ago for some trim work, and she liked it, so that's good enough for me. We just took advantage of their buy two get one free promo.
You are right on both counts about the OSB.
In fact, I just tried a 4 x 4 sheet, and didn't like the look, so I cut that down to a 2 x 4 sheet and I am happier with that. I have two full sheets pre-painted, so will have 8 pieces to put up today. I will post a pic on my thread Gulf Island Building in the project section later. I don't like stealing Knucklez' thread for something like this.
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Last lift I rented was just over $20 for 4 hours use
I tacked each sheet up enough to hold it in place
Then after I returned the lift I fully secured each sheet
It was a cathedral ceiling I was working on
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Renting is essentially out of the question here. Probably OK where Knucklez is I imagine.
It would take 4 hours just to get something here, never mind to actually use it.
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my next semester of school has started and no functional kitchen yet.. joy
I'm actually surprised how well I'm functioning without a kitchen. So much so, I've been a little lazy about getting the tile laid down.

We'll see if that mindset holds true when I redo the bathroom this summer. I'm sure the restaurant around the corner wont appreciate me using theirs all the time.
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quick tip..

i put ceiling strapping 16" OC. but i should have added a couple extra such that the end of my 4x8 sheet could end right in the middle of a strap. no cutting of the chipboard sheets required. this would make for much nicer seems. but i am going to cover later with tin, so i don't care. but could be important for you.

wife could lift the sheets on ladder because it was thin and relatively light. also use "particle board" screws which are different than wood screws. they make the job much easier.

also, if you are painting, they sell "paint grade" plywood which isn't all that more expensive. i'm just using cheap OSB because well.. its cheap..

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time to reinforce the cabinets..

first thing is i flipped the cabinet upside down and take off the flimsy chipboard square box base.



then, i replaced it with some 2x3 wood which makes the cabinent not as tall (i will compensate height with extra thick concrete countertop).




one thing to remember.. the dishwasher still needs to fit under the top of the cabinet.. so don't drop the cabinets too low!

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