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Old 04-18-2010, 10:07 PM   #256
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I would apply acid stain to the concrete?
sorry, i don't know anything about proper acid stain application.

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Old 04-18-2010, 10:10 PM   #257
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thanks 6stringmason for the comments. i agree, i wouldn't send this to a customer either and actually.. the streeky finish i did with the sealer makes my wife not happy. i will have to remove the sealer and try that again - this time being more careful as to how long i leave the sealer on the concrete before removing it (but otherwise we're really happy with it!)

oh the things we learn when DIY'ing.

right now i am reno-ing a bathroom, and i have another 6 months (at least) of hard core renos to do before i have enough free time to fix sealer botch job.
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Old 06-07-2010, 03:05 AM   #258
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Hi everybody,

Thanks for documenting that, Knucklez! It gave me the courage to build an outdoor concrete countertop, and it came out pretty great. Now I'm to the part where I need to grind and polish, and I'm hoping to get some advice from all you guys here. I don't really want any aggregate to show - I want it to be very matte, but also nicely polished and not too shiny. It was suggested to me that I start with 800 grit and go to 1500, but I'm actually wondering if I should just start with 1500 and stay there. I'm also not sure what kind of grinder I need and which pads I should buy. Anybody have any advice?

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Old 06-09-2010, 08:48 PM   #259
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hey man, starting with 1500 is probably not realistic. the concrete is too rough, you'll just chew up the sand paper.

personally, i would start with 400 and end at 800 for what you want, but i'm not a pro.

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knuckles great job on you ct. I just read your entire post...yes all 18 pages.and i am looking forward to making my own top. I have 7 cu ft to pour and was about to order the quikrete countertop mix from lowes but opted out after hearing its reviews on other forums. So i will be making a batch made from scratch which in turn will be about the same amount of money as the quikrete. I got my recipe from Fishstone.com. I also spent many hours researching different types of sealers and have decided on the E.A.P. I will post pics or maybe start a new thread similar to yours and tell of my experience. I have literally spent about 7 months researching, read 2 books,watching videos, and reading product reviews and experimenting in my basement to make the best countertop i can, and in the end it is forums like this that tend to be the most useful, so thank you for putting so much time into this topic.
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wow.. you really do your homework before you start a project. amazing what you can learn with $2 in late fines from the library!

feel free to post your before/after pics to this thread, unless you are documenting the entire project.. then you might appreciate some space of your own.

i've been contemplating doing a second countertop... just a small one for the bathroom. will post pictures here if i do.

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Great project and skills. Looks like I will pick up some Sakrete and do some testing to see if I can come out with the same results.
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i should check that other message board

i guess i was just trying to defend DIY'ers. i read a lot over there that made DIY sound like idiots that just are incompetents and have no business doing renovations. the truth is, we are not as good as pros, but if we can do a satisfactory job that we AND OTHER people think looks great, and it passes and exceeds code (where applicaple) then i guess we're not all bad. that was my point. when you look across the net (and this message board) you find oodles of evidence that suggests DIY'er are a competent bunch which is contrary to what was posted over there.

i'm glad we have a place to get together, share ideas and help each other. i hope others can learn from what i did right and wrong.

if a pro stops by my thread, i hope they point out what is good and what is bad so it helps everyone who reads this in the future.

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Knucklez, I have gone back and read all of your thread and you have done a fantastic job all the way around. The above quote talking about the "PROS" looking down on DIYs, they had to start somewhere, they didn't just all of a sudden have full experience right off the bat. I have about 40 years of home building/contracting, wood working, cabinet building and all the other things that go along with being experienced under my belt. While I have done most all of it, I have never built a concrete counter top so that would make me a DIRer there wouldn't it. Some folks have to try to make other folks look bad in order to make them look good, or so they think. Sorry, to be negative here, just an ole man spoutin off. You are doing great job, I am enjoying your projects.
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Old 08-16-2010, 08:25 PM   #264
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ahhh... you're the guy i need to ask about cabinet door refinishing. wow, tough. i think i wrecked them trying to paint and add trim. i just took off all the trim and sanded down the crappy paint job i did (first time with a sprayer.. way harder than it looks). now i must re-do the entire thing. will try one more time and if it doesn't look good, i'll hire a pro or buy new.

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At least you can try repainting
Our cabinets need to be replaced
Original from the 50's when the house was built
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WOW...some nice work
I need to read thru more fo these threads for ideas
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Knucklez, if you could post a picture of one of your cabinet doors maybe we can help come up with a plan to refinish them. If all else fails you could put new doors and drawer fronts on. If you are pleased with the configuration of your kitchen cabinets and the boxes are in good shape, you can save a ton by replacing the face frames, doors and drawer fronts.

I have seen folks tear out cabinets and replace them with boxes no better or worse than they took out. The boxes are what holds the contents of a cabinet anyway and the face frames, doors and drawer fronts are cosmetic. Well the face frames are both structural and cosmetic.

If you wish to make your own cabinet doors I will be more than happy to walk you through it, if you don't already know how. If you can get an account with a cabinet supply shop you can save yourself quite a bit. The trick is to get an account there as the supply shops are pretty loyal to cabinet builders. I hope I don't tick some cabinet folks off here but this is a DIY forum. Sometimes you can get an account through another business even if it is just a cash account.

You can buy the good plywood there as well as good lumber. The cost of the lumber will surprise you compared to the big box stores as well as the hinges, drawer slides and hardware. Oh, by the way, the cabinet supply stores will have cabinet doors you can order for your cabinets. One more note, the cost of the doors at the supply shop will be about the same cost as it would take you to build it if you figure your labor in.

The plywood at the big box stores is seconds IMHO and not worth the extra effort to cull the bad parts out. Oh and be very careful at the big box stores, the plywood they call birch most times is not birch.
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thx jiju1943, that's very kind of you. but my wife has already removed the trim i put on (she decided on a different design she likes more) and has decided to go ahead and re-prime and paint. so she has already done most of the work. all i have to do is cut some trim and glue it to the doors (i like glue here cause makes a seamless finish). she will do everything else.

keeps her busy..

in the mean time, i just finished re-eavestroughing the entire house. up on a 30ft boom.. kinda scary when it sways in the wind!

ps. the boom was for the installed decorative molding that was far away hard to reach by ladder.. but since it was here decided to do the eaves as well.
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Very inspiring thread. I read the whole thing. Knucklez you deserve some sort of reward if all the compliments are not enough! My questions, is there any way to pre-slurry the surface of the mold, using your glove to push that fine mix into all the corners and such right before the pour to try to eliminate any voids or bubbles especially along the edges? And any way to do something of an undercut frame around an under mount sink so that edge (what will be the bottom edge when right side up) is as smooth as the other edges in the mold (hope you get what I mean) Or for that matter, around the front edge that will show as well? And finally, it seems after reading that the careful preparation of the mold is very critical, could you use a vacuum form plastic laminate to provide a very smooth surface that might not need so much grinding? Thank you for your contributions here!
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levelhead, i just followed the instructions in the book. the book is for a basic countertop with no fancy methods or techniques. i have not experimented with anything else. so i have no experience to draw from which would help answer your questions.

just read the book & watch the video, all the basics are there.

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