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Old 02-12-2012, 06:47 PM   #106
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Ive been researching it a little ...what do you think of Birch as a suspect? well the verdicts in..i just read your reply. birch it is, providing Jim agrees. Seems strong, i wonder if its the best plywood to use when i build my cabinet...What would you guys use?

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Ive been researching it a little ...what do you think of Birch as a suspect? well the verdicts in..i just read your reply. birch it is, providing Jim agrees. Seems strong, i wonder if its the best plywood to use when i build my cabinet...What would you guys use?
Any plywood with that many plies is going to be strong, no doubt about that.

It is almost for sure a hardwood plywood, but I am thrown by that open knot. I take it that must be the back side of the sheet, is it?

One other thing, can you see any voids, sort of like small holes, on the edges of the sheet where you have made cuts? If there are any, they should be very small.
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It looks like a utility grade Birch or an import, it is hard to say not being able to see the grain clearly. It is good wood to work with, are you using it for the sides of your cabinets?
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Old 02-12-2012, 08:18 PM   #109
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no voids, and i know that there were very few knots..not sure if it was the back or front side because both sides were very smooth and ive had the plywood leaning against the wall for two or more years and it is not bowed at all.
I did read that birch plywoods most imperfect layers are on the outsides, the inner plys are perfect, hence the strength. I guess birch is not known for its beautiful grain...maybe they add interest to the look of it by putting knots and imperfections on the outer layers. Who knows?

Jim- i was thinking about using it for the sides and the floor. i really only have one cabinet to build, the one on the right side of the sink when looking at the picture. i'm trying to make a cabinet to complete the row of lower cabinets so they reach the door. That way i can stretch my counters all the way to the door and gain 3 feet of desperately needed counterspace!
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I'm going to make my new cabinet look as much like the one beside it as possible. i'm going to make or buy new doors for both. the cabinet to the left of the sink will resemble this...
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Wow folks let me tell ya...I've probably contacted 20 diffrent lumber suppliers and not one of them carries hard maple planks in 10' lengths!! I'm starting to feel its hopeless Is there another kind of wood that may be good to use for countertops? oak, walnut, ash and pine are the most redily available around here.
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Wow folks let me tell ya...I've probably contacted 20 diffrent lumber suppliers and not one of them carries hard maple planks in 10' lengths!! I'm starting to feel its hopeless Is there another kind of wood that may be good to use for countertops? oak, walnut, ash and pine are the most redily available around here.
Birch, Beech, or Maple look close to the same and all are hard. here is a link to some lumber companies in your area.
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Have you checked Ikea? You can get butcher block counter tops from them in Maple and some other woods as well. Just a thought. By the way you are doing a tremendous job, keep up the good work.
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Thank you Jim

Fixrite- i would look for butcher block which is what i origionally wanted, but i loved the slabs of wood so much that i blew 1/3rd of my budget on them
So now i'm stuck making my own counter..but i vaguely remember someone saying that maple has antibacterial qualities and thats what i should use.

....Edit: Believe it or not A 12' length of maple butcher block countertop from lumber liquidators is only 369.00, and an 8 ft lenth is 289.00..together they would be plenty for what i need and onlya little over 600.00...hmmmmm Fixrite you may have something here!
As hard as it has been to find maple planks it may be worth buying them. But i may have to give up the terra cotta floor to do it. Guess it depends if i can find the T/C at a good price.

WOW thank you guys for brainstorming this with me
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fourtunately, I came across a great deal on an arsenal of used tools for a great price...unfourtunately I'm getting them because my uncle is too sick to ever use them again. He built his own three story house, deck, two car garage and storage shed from the ground up and all the tools he bought for the jobs are barely used and just sitting there. He's ready to sell me the lot of them and believe me ..theres ALOT of them. My first buy was three porter cable nail guns, all different sizes and these two dewalt sanders at 200.00 for all!

Cocobolo, do you think these sanders will do?
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Cocobolo, do you think these sanders will do?
So now you have a 1/4 sheet sander and a 5" orbital. Not the same as the Porter Cable 6" by any means. If you have all three, you're all set.
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believe me i would still love to get the pc 6inch sander in the near future, but for now..ill start with these because the budget is dwindling fast. Especially if I go with the butcherblock countertop...and its looking like i will. I googled pictures of them and they are pretty, not as rustic as i would like but oh well. anythings better than formica from the '60s
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Thank you Jim

Fixrite- i would look for butcher block which is what i origionally wanted, but i loved the slabs of wood so much that i blew 1/3rd of my budget on them
So now i'm stuck making my own counter..but i vaguely remember someone saying that maple has antibacterial qualities and thats what i should use.

....Edit: Believe it or not A 12' length of maple butcher block countertop from lumber liquidators is only 369.00, and an 8 ft lenth is 289.00..together they would be plenty for what i need and onlya little over 600.00...hmmmmm Fixrite you may have something here!
As hard as it has been to find maple planks it may be worth buying them. But i may have to give up the terra cotta floor to do it. Guess it depends if i can find the T/C at a good price.

WOW thank you guys for brainstorming this with me
Definitely take a look at IKEA for the butcher block counter tops. A birch 8' x 7/8" x 25 5/8' slab is like $170. They also have beech and oak. I believe they are already sealed and finished.

If you're going to build your own cabinets, also consider Ikea for the door hinge and drawer hardware. They make some good stuff.
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Leiona, this is just an example but you can do a search for your area and see if there are any semi truck bed suppliers, the semi truck beds are made of butcher block red oak and are fairly good looking. I know Cracker Barrel uses a lot of the truck bed for things in their place. Here is a link
http://www.lewisohn.com/industries/oak-flooring/

If you can find one and decide to order some of the flooring for the counter top be sure to tell them not to stamp their name on the front of the wood, you can not sand it out. It is by far cheaper than a regular butcher block counter top and you can get it any length you want up to 44.5 feet long. If you go with a red oak top there is a filler you can buy to fill the pores with so it will be easier to finish.

Both sanders you got are finish sanders but with the larger one on the right you can go with a coarser sand paper and work your way up from there. To do some pretty good cutting start off with 60 grit and go on up from there. The 60 will cut pretty good with that sander. You may have to empty the bag quite often though. As Coco said, always keep the sander flat, don't tilt to try to get a spot off, it will dig to much and be hard to correct and will show like crazy.

If the wood you want to sand is just needing sanded and not cut hard, you want to start off with a much finer grit and go up from there.
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I found the blum motion soft close drawer slides ( 100 lb rating) for less at Lee Valley than at the local big box store.

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