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Old 02-10-2012, 04:39 PM   #76
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Miracle of all miracles, my mom showed up here with a handyman who does odd jobs, her buddy!!!!!!
He got the hood vent down for me lickety split and i now have someone to help me with the several other electrical things i need to do..move plugs, add a kitchen ceiling light and a can light above the counter, and sink that awful stove plug into the wall. as it is the stove plug and the receptacle are dangling in the breeze. i will document it all for newbies like me and for the amusement of all the pros

BTW...this may seem like a dumb question but remember...I've done none of this stuff before...why are my sawhorses different heights?
Do those sawhorses have some different height mounting holes where the top attaches maybe?

They look to be the same type, can't think of any good reason they are different...unless someone cut the legs shorter on one.

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Old 02-10-2012, 04:55 PM   #77
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I thought.. jeez, there must be a technical reason for this craziness...
Guess not, eh? so i fixed it and i set up a helper to keep the wood from sliding on me when i cut..
Turns out i'm not so good at sawing with the circular. Its bad enough the noise sets my nerves on edge when i use it..but it kicks back on me when im at the end of my cuts..scares the crap out of me.
The blade is new, what am i doing wrong? ..Oh well, a glass of wine (for the nerves) and this desk project will continue...at least i got all the cuts made, and spared all of my fingers!
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I thought.. jeez, there must be a technical reason for this craziness...
Guess not, eh? so i fixed it and i set up a helper to keep the wood from sliding on me when i cut..
Turns out i'm not so good at sawing with the circular. Its bad enough the noise sets my nerves on edge when i use it..but it kicks back on me when im at the end of my cuts..scares the crap out of me.
The blade is new, what am i doing wrong? ..Oh well, a glass of wine (for the nerves) and this desk project will continue...at least i got all the cuts made, and spared all of my fingers!
You are pushing into the cut with the saw, but both ends of the wood you are trying to cut are somehow supported. As you exit the cut, the wood binds against the blade giving you that kickback...which can be very dangerous.

You need to have the end that you are cutting off either unsupported so it can simply fall away, or just nearly supported so it can fall away but not necessarily break off before you finish the cut.

Alternatively, you can clamp the wood to your sawhorse, hang the end to be cut off past the other horse, and as you exit the cut pull the cut off piece gently away from and slightly ahead of the cut. What you are trying to do is to open the cut as you finish it.

What you are doing now is closing the cut and it WILL bite you. Practice on some scrap wood until you get the hang of it.
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hey coco i think we just figured out why the sawhorses are diffrent heights there....
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Ok heeeeeres the desk project..
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and the almost finished product..I still have to figure out how i want the actual desk to be shaped but it goes on the right. i countersunk all the screws. I'm gonna use a handy dandy recipe for wood plugs I heard on the DIY channel the other day:

1.) take some sawdust in your palm
2.) squirt some wood glue into the sawdust
3.) mix to a doughy consistensy
4.) fill the holes with it

I did not, however follow the cardinal rule of carpentry;
MEASURE TWICE CUT ONCE.

I know my problem in this picture is one of... measure at least once, build once.
Can anybody see why I should have measured everything before building?
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How about now? Jeesh, i'm retarded.
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and the almost finished product..I still have to figure out how i want the actual desk to be shaped but it goes on the right. i countersunk all the screws. I'm gonna use a handy dandy recipe for wood plugs I heard on the DIY channel the other day:

1.) take some sawdust in your palm
2.) squirt some wood glue into the sawdust
3.) mix to a doughy consistensy
4.) fill the holes with it

I did not, however follow the cardinal rule of carpentry;
MEASURE TWICE CUT ONCE.

I know my problem in this picture is one of... measure at least once, build once.
Can anybody see why I should have measured everything before building?
It looks cute with that leg hanging in the air.

Put a level on top to see if one side is higher than the other, and then ....very carefully...trim a tiny bit off the offending side (or sides, as the case may be) until it's right.

Alternatively, glue a shim under the short piece.

It's only a mistake if you can't fix it.
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Thank you Keith for pointing the middle leg out..I hadn't noticed that..
grrr..maybe its just a shadow , i'm gonna go check..........

Looks like a case of the AWFUL SAWER SYNDROME...the backs of my cute legs touch the ground nicely. Maybe when i get my sander Ill sand the backs of the legs down so theyre flush. Who knows? Im thinking of making it a corner unit because i think the desk is too small, but then again a small surface holds less JUNK!!
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Bah, you don't need more than one outlet anyway. Just plug a power strip into it!

On another note, in terms of construction technique for things like this, metal "L" brackets are a little bit deceptive. They are not going to give your piece much of any lateral stability at all. Put something heavy on that top shelf, and should the whole piece get a hard knock from one side or the other it could collapse, the metal brackets bending without much effort.

There are complicated woodworking things you could do to give it more rigidity...but the easiest approach would be to give one section of it a panel back. You nail/screw it around the perimeter and that provides lateral rigidity. If you don't want to go that far you could do something similar by putting corner triangles on the top back corners.

If what I'm saying does not make any sense let me know and I'll see if I can describe it better.
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i put brackets on the TV shelf but for all the rest i screwed the wood together. its pretty solid..dosent wiggle at all.
the desk top area should tighten things up even more when i get it on..tomorrow
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and the almost finished product..I still have to figure out how i want the actual desk to be shaped but it goes on the right. i countersunk all the screws. I'm gonna use a handy dandy recipe for wood plugs I heard on the DIY channel the other day:

1.) take some sawdust in your palm
2.) squirt some wood glue into the sawdust
3.) mix to a doughy consistensy
4.) fill the holes with it

I did not, however follow the cardinal rule of carpentry;
MEASURE TWICE CUT ONCE.

I know my problem in this picture is one of... measure at least once, build once.
Can anybody see why I should have measured everything before building?
I'm following your thread with interest, you're doing great alrighty,
but confused about the desk?
There is going to be a TV under the desk?
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twoknots....LOL

all will be revealed...i will finish it tonight!

meanwhile check out this mess..
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Keith this is for you buddy, now if i could just cut 2x12's with it.....$211.00 bought it for the kitchen project.
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Oh Ironlight I should have mentioned that i will likely put a panel on the right side where the desk will be so "things" dont fall off out of the hole, ... that should help with the rigidity, plus it will provide me a place to glue the corkboard to...or maybe ill paint the panel with chalkboard paint or even magnetic paint so he can hang or post things there...limitless possibilities eh?

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