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Old 02-08-2012, 11:36 PM   #31
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Here is you self portrait shrunk down.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:03 AM   #32
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12 or 13 is a fine age to start. I started playing around in the shop with my grandfather when I was 8 or so and I was out there with him a week before he passed back in 99. He is the reason I take on projects here 24 years later. It's a great foundation for the future. I have a white collar job and I never get sick of the odd looks of people's faces when they see me with paint all over my cut up hands Monday morning.

How many floors are there? Is it just the one? I took 2 out of my kitchen 2 weeks ago, not really a lot of skill and special tools involved, just a LOT of elbow grease.
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well pete...my issue with the floor is that its laid over top of another vinyl floor thats been there since the house was built in 1960...while the 1960 glue may be hardened and easy to get off (havent tried yet
)..the "newer" vinyl is laid with EXtremely sticky glue that leaves a really sticky residue when you pull it off. I'll have to wait and see what people say before i start on that i guess.
Wish i could just lay down a new subfloor over all of it and go from there but if i do that, my back door wont be able to open...and believe me, getting the old man to re-hang the door will be next to impossible


Thanks DDude for adjusting my picture..i'll try it again.
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:25 PM   #34
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Ok Shumaker...i tried getting your version of the self portrait up there and it tells me this...
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Thats ok it dosent matter really...its strange though, even though it dosent appear under my name in the chatroom...it comes up on my profile page.

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Oh BTW Keith...I don't believe we've discussed how to tell the moisture content of my slabs or if you think 4 mo. in the kiln, and two years in his basement will likely be ok. they still seem fresh......

oh oh and, the holes I keep talking about filling are called "loose knots" i found the term in your thread lol

I just want to know how to keep the loose knots intact. i like em

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Ok Shumaker...i tried getting your version of the self portrait up there and it tells me this...
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Thats ok it dosent matter really...its strange though, even though it dosent appear under my name in the chatroom...it comes up on my profile page.
I don't know whats going on. I resized it again. It meets all the criteria but still fails to upload. I tried to use it as my profile pic and no go. Sorry.
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Well I'm off to buy an orbital sander to start making a mess with...gonna try to get some sanding done on the cabinets and take that awful hood cabinet down. at least i wont have to look at that. Thanks for all your help so far
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Oh BTW Keith...I don't believe we've discussed how to tell the moisture content of my slabs or if you thing 4 mo. in the kiln, and two years in his basement will likely be ok. they still seem fresh......

oh oh and, the holes I keep talking about filling are called "loose knots" i found the term in your thread lol

I just want to know how to keep the loose knots intact. i like em
It sounds to me as though your seller must have had a solar kiln.

As long as his basement was dry, you should be good to go.

Loose knots, as they appear now, are unlikely to change in size any more if they have been inside for two years plus. Having said that, your kitchen will undoubtedly be warmer than his basement, and it might have higher humidity as well. The higher humidity will swell the wood - albeit minimally - and help keep the knots in place.

Can you take two or three close up photos of the loose knots and post them? If they don't come up large enough I'll give you my email address and you can send them to me as full size pics.

There are a couple of things you can do to keep the knots from being a problem, but first let's see what you have.
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Well I'm off to buy an orbital sander to start making a mess with...gonna try to get some sanding done on the cabinets and take that awful hood cabinet down. at least i wont have to look at that. Thanks for all your help so far
If you can - get one with a 6" pad on it.

I think I have three r/o sanders here, and the Porter Cable is far and away the best. It's a bit pricey at around $200, but works extremely well. It is a tool that will last you for many years. I think I have had mine for 25 years or so now, and the occasional change of brushes and the pad is all it has ever needed.

The others I have are only 5" pads. It may not seem like much of a difference, but believe me, it is.
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Wish i could just lay down a new subfloor over all of it and go from there but if i do that, my back door wont be able to open
Same exact problem I was facing. I had:
- Diagonal 1x6 boards
- 5/8" subfloor
- Sweet dark green sheet vinyl from 1930
- 1/8" plywood
- Crappy sheet vinyl from 2005 or 2006

I had literally 1/16" of clearance under my back door and it annoyed me that I couldn't put a mat there.

Problem was that the old floor was more than likely glued down w/ asbestos or contained asbestos - hence the motivation to remove the entire "package" as one - subfloor, glue, sheet vinyl - without taking it apart or scraping. Like I said...... lots of elbow grease, but I feel it was worth it for peace of mind to use a little extra muscle and buy 4 new sheets of wood for the subfloor. Not sure if this is an option for you.
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leiona, be sure to check Craig's List before you run off and buy stuff new...that includes tools, sinks, appliances, faucets, tiles, lighting fixtures, you name it. You can get some incredibly good deals and with your budget it will make a big difference.

For the record I have a little Dewalt 1/4 sheet orbital sander that has been a real champ over the past ten years. I've used it for furniture finishing and refinishing and all sorts of finishing sanding around the house. It's a great multi-purpose tool.

I did not see you mention what you're going to be putting down for your floor. Are you laying ceramic/porcelain tiles? If so I think you're really going to want to take up those two layers for the best result. I would think this is the perfect project for your boys. I mean, it's sanctioned destruction in a controlled environment.

That said, you could screw down a new subfloor and just cut down the bottom of the floor and raise the threshold. But you're talking about close to 1" of additional height between the subfloor, thinset, and tile. Bud will probably have my head...
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well everyone, you have totally convinced me..i will remove the old floor.
I wonder if that asbestos would hurt the kids......

lets not forget, though, the problem of the glue on the wall from the backsplash tile i ripped down,,,will that have to be removed completely before i put up new backsplsh tiles or will sanding it level be ok?

ironlight- i am hoping for terra cotta tiles but i would consider the new rubber style floors they make to look like anything. they just glue down and you cannot ruin them unless you burn them. their stain proof and water proof..and they just glue down to anything...
they can even be glued to that nasty vinyl

hey guys thanx for the help here...googling this type of info dosent compare to personal advice from those who know! tomorrow a break from the kitchen to make a desk for my son to match his bed its his b-day. he's 12

how does this orbital look? 129.00 at amazon. its a 6"..i will order it tomorrow if noone stops me lol..couldnt get one tonight dinner ran long..bennihana japanese steakhouse YUM!
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how does this orbital look? 129.00 at amazon. its a 6"..i will order it tomorrow if noone stops me lol..couldnt get one tonight dinner ran long..bennihana japanese steakhouse YUM!
That's the one! You're gonna love it. Perfect choice.
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good deal. i love amazon and let me tell ya..they have hundreds of choices. Some nice dewalt and others for around 65.00 but they are 5 inch. florida pneumatic is the other one here.
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good deal. i love amazon and let me tell ya..they have hundreds of choices. Some nice dewalt and others for around 65.00 but they are 5 inch. florida pneumatic is the other one here.
These are completely different machines.

The air powered one is generally for automotive use. The other is for finer finishing only, but the Porter cable can easily handle material removal as well as fine finishing. That's the one you want.

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