Kitchen remodel

leiona

thanks again..your support and compliments definetely keep me goin here! i got the sink from Ikea..$189.00, a steal if you ask me

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leiona

I just tried to hang my first shelf using these type of screws because my stud finder wont find the studs through this thick drywall/plaster and here is what i am now left with..I do not know what to do or how im gonna hang these shelves..does anyone have any advice? i am desperate here!

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cocobolo

Leiona, what you have there is a butterfly type of fastener. It looks as though the wings might be on backwards, but I'm not certain about that.

What you do with those is to fold the wings against the screw part, and drill a hole big enough to clear the folded assembly. Then you push the wings through the drywall. You will need to have some sort of slotted bracket that you can slide down over that screw. Snug the screw up and you should be OK.

If your stud finder won't work (it really should!) try this. Tap very gently with a light hammer across your wall and listen for the change in sound as you go. Try not to beat the wall up too badly when you do that! As the sound gets more "solid", that's where the stud will be.

Here's an easier and foolproof way. At the exact height you plan on having a shelf, take a thin finishing nail at least 2" long, and drive it right through the drywall every inch along that line. Eventually, you will hit a stud. You should normally find a stud somewhere around 15 1/4" out from the corner, but that of course depends on the wall framing. Plus, you should have two studs right in the corners of any wall intersections.

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leiona

i must have the things backwards because they wiggle alot even though i tightened them as much as possible, but i dont see how i can get them all the way through the wall till they open up if i put them the other way...i have to screw it in with the bracket attached... and the wall is like an inch thick. the fact that my bracket is skinnier that the gaping hole i have to make to get the butterfly through is something i hadn't foreseen. I dont think those brackets are going to work. i may have to do something else like hang the shelves from the bulkhead with wire cable or chains or something. I am so lost. I just searched dorfs thread for some ideas but i cant find anything.
i like the finishing nail idea, maybe ill try that but i fear my brackets wont be spaced evenly under my shelf and i cant stand asymmetry. thanks for the advice though..
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leiona

heres my favorite new flower and the laceleaf japanese maple i bought today.

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leiona

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cocobolo

Let's try one thing at a time here.

Forget the butterfly fasteners. I'm no fan of those things anyway.

Find your studs using the nail trick, or the hammer trick or any way you like, but find ALL the studs where your shelves will be going.

Show me a clear photo of your shelf brackets. Then lets go from there.

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shumakerscott

I'm with cocobolo. The studs are there, you just have to find them. A better pic would help too. dorf dude...

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leiona

ok i will send detailed pics and a description of what im doing and hopefully you guys can help because at this point, hanging the shelves from the bulkhead is my best alternative plan and i really dont think that will go with my "theme". apparently when i drilled the holes for the butterflys i managed to go exactly in between the studs so i got 8 inches of empty space on either side of my holes
oh and there is a bathroom on the other side of the wall with a built in medicine cabinet so i think the studs are offset, i dont believe they are 16 inches apart in this particular wall.

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leiona

ok here goes...boy i hope you guys can understand my scrawl...
pic 1 the wall of doom
pic 2 the plan for it is to have shelves, the horizontal lines, with brackets, the vertical lines..and the hood over the stove in between
pic 3 the wall is 8'2" with 42 inches from right to left over the counter and 23 inches from left to right over the other side counter near the doorway
pic 4 the bathroom on the other side of the wall of doom, the medicine cabinet is 36 inches from the corner
pic 5 my brackets
pic 6 my shelf im currently trying to hang..its 42 inches long

and there it is. i cant find the studs with the stud finder, or the hammer sound trick. i havent tried the finishing nail trick yet because im hoping not to put a line of additional holes in the wall if i dont have to, the plaster tends to chip at the slightest tap of the nail. will post pics seperate to keep them big enough to see.

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leiona

pic 2..the plan for it is to have shelves, the horizontal lines, with brackets, the vertical lines..and the hood over the stove in between

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leiona

pic 3... the counter runs 42in

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leiona

pic 4-the other side of the wall..and pic 5

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leiona

pic 6...shelf is 12 in deep, 42 in long and 3/4 in thick. so theres my best descriptions...i hope you guys can figure this out because i cannot. thanks for brainstorming with me!

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cocobolo

Have you tried to find the studs from the other side of the wall?

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