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Old 04-19-2011, 06:43 PM   #76
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Just wanted to post an update. New pics coming soon. I really haven't done much since the last posting. The contractors have finished with their part. There is wood trim in the empty spaces above the cabinets around the two beams and the area above the refrigerator has been framed in and will have doors after all (wife changed her mind about that). The porch light got remounted. We used our old one which my wife really likes. I just cleaned it up some. The old wall around the kitchen window has been removed and replaced with drywall and mud but I have yet to replace the window trim.

I'm prepping the floor for the Pergo laminate I bought. I removed the old, damaged oak flooring in front of the kitchen door. It had huge holes hacked into it for the old plumbing. It also had some water damage from many years of occasional spills from the sink and dishswasher. The patches that the contractor put in didn't quite come up to the level of the old floor so I will have to find some way to level these small areas. am trying to stay away from SLC.

I found out why their patches fell short today when I tried to buy a few pieces to relace what I had taken up. Modern oak floor is less thick by about 1/16". The tongue and groove don't quite match either. They told me they could mill flooring to my specification but it woud be a few weeks until they got a new supply of oak in to mill. The old floor is the same thicknes as 1X milled pine and oak boards. I figured since I just need a patch under Pergo to just go with low quality pine boards which cost $10.00 for 2 1X6X9 boards. An equal amount of oak would have cost 40. I did stagger the boards when I cut them out. I managed to do a fair job of that with my sawsall. I really should have had a multi tool for that job. rather than cutting that hole square, I salvaged small pieces of the old floor that I removed and screwed them in to make it square. It will make more sense once I post some pics. This way, it will be easier to restore the oak floor in the future which is something I may do.

My young son had spring break last week and my young daughter has her's this week so I won't be able to do much until next week.

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Old 05-16-2011, 01:04 PM   #77
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Sort of a lazy Monday. Finally more progress pics. I cut out the section of water damaged and hacked floor boards in front of the kitchen door. There used to be a sink and dishwasher there. You can see part of the pine board patch I made before covering it with Pergo. I thought I took pics of the entire patch but apparently not.

My mother-in-laws insane cocker spaniel dug at my new door when she was left alone for a couple of hours. I still haven't fixed that mess but got some plastic wood and have some small pine trim pieces to fix it.

And some early progress pics of the new floor.
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Old 05-16-2011, 01:17 PM   #78
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More progress pics of the floor.

My cutting station set up on the porch.

And The bad patch job one of my contractor's subs did. He told me this was sand and finish ready. There is almost a 1/4 drop from old floor to patched floor in places. I have to shim this before covering it with the Pergo. New oak flooring is thinner the old. It is less than 3/4 inch and the tong ad grooves don't match. You have to have oak custom milled to match old oak floor around here. I know, I should have made them redo it right? But when all was said and done, I just wanted them out of my house. I can remedy the rest.

Followed some bad web advice and ztrashed a new saw blade cutting the Pergo that I didn't need to. The obvious had to be pointed out to me- all your cut ends and edges are hidden by border trimso it doesn't matter if the surface is a little chipped.

Cut a chunk of meat out of the tip of my left thumb on my new table saw but I then read up on table saw safety and am using it a lot safer now.
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Old 05-16-2011, 01:30 PM   #79
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Jim - how fast is that Pergo running through your saw blade? I did about 1000 sqft in my kitchen/living and dining room and it ate a few blades!

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Old 05-16-2011, 03:14 PM   #80
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As long as it cuts the pergo, I'll continue to use it for that. The blade on the miter saw is already old so I don't mind using that one as well. I tried to rip a pine 2x4 on the table saw blade and it just burned the wood so I won't be using it for anything but the pergo and swap it out for a good blade for trim cuts. Hoping to get through 450 Sq ft with the blades I already ruined but well see. I'm doing the entire first floor except for the addition and am about 1/3 done now.
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I trashed a 12" chopsaw blade installing laminate---I wanted to cry. I've never known a product that was as tough on blades.
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Looks good! My wife have been going back and forth on what to use in the kitchen and keep coming back to pergo. I look forward to hearing what you think when you have started using the kitchen w/ it.
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This is Jim's forum - but just to let you know, CPete, I did Pergo in the kitchen about 15 months ago now... we love it... durable, easy to clean... the underlayment is key to making it comfortable to stand on while cooking, etc.

We are careful to quickly wipe up any spills, but I've spilled entire pots of pasta water, etc... and no issues, just make sure the seams are tight at install and the edges at the wall, toe kicks are caulked/sealed.
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So far we like it. At 1.71/sq.ft. for the Presto style at HD it was the cheapest solution we could find. I didn't want to staple down underlayment then vinal as the staples would further damage the oak underneath.

The oak is in rough shape so restoring it is not an option now but I'm thinking further down the road I may want to restore it. It's true what they say about the noise. The dog's claws hitting ithe floor make a louder sound than before. It's also very durable.

I used scrap pieces on the edge when I had to stop and am glad I did as those edges are vulnerable to damage without the male tab clicked into place.

I hope to get back to it tomorrow but things keep coming up. Along with the floor, I am finishing out the window trim, working on converting a half view screen door into a full view, and trying to prep the pool site to get the kids pool up by Memorial weekend.
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The porch light is back up and the porch is getting back in order. This light has been up for some time now but I just getting these pictures up.

I looked at wood screen doors but the just don't build them too well anymore so decided to convert my old one into a full view. Also have to reverse the handle and hinges. Sorry, I didn't take before pictures. The screen had a wood panel in it before and I joining the two inserts together- the one that had the screen to the one that had the glass.
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More progress. A lot has been put on hold while I put up the pool for the kids. The dryer is on the fritz, getting serviced this Tuesday. That means hanging up clothes on the line. The clothes line came down yesterday so that is today's unexpected project.

This is my floor progress to date. The kitchen is almost completely done and we are using that floor in the livingroom. The floor was put on hold before the holiday weekend and I haven't got back to it yet.

The corner cabinet was not originally supposed to be a cabinet at all, just a false front with a door. The GC I hired for the kitchen decided he had enough material to make it a functional cabinet which was a bonus. He mounted the top and bottom and built a cabinet face. That left me the task of buying hinges and a forstner bit and mounting hinges to the door. I also put the back on the cabinet and covered up the pipes in that corner. I used some remnant sure ply underlayment for that. Had to cut it into two peices to get it through the opening. Hope to have the door mounted soon.
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NICE!

I'm doing pergo in mine!!!
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A few minor updates.

Remember I wound up with a bonus cabinet where the contractor built a cabinet face, top and bottom where there was originally supposed to be a non-functioning door for show. I left off at the point where I had installed the hinges on the door using my drill press and a forstner bit. I thought that was the hard part. I had never used a forstner bit and the measurements are very precise on such an installation.

After that mounting the door hinges to the face should be a piece of cake right? Wrong! First, given the narrow opening, I should have had a right angle drill which I don't own. I even considered buying one just for the occasion. Instead I made do with my impact driver. Hickory is a very hard wood. I broke 2 drill bits and at least 4 screws. Those hinge kits they sell at Lowes have very low quality aluminum screws. I finally bought a couple of screws that looked like they would work, said a Hail Mary and just screwed them into the mess of holes I made working around the broken off screws.

The door ended up being slightly higher that the adjacent door but decided to call it good. These pics are the result of this effort, just finished this AM with the handle install.
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And here is the completed screen door. The green no longer goes with the porch so now I will have to repaint it white.

I did do more to the floor yesterday before work. Not enough to post pics. I will post when it is completed.

I don't make much progress during the summer. Next week I have some Vac days and hope do make meaningful progress to the floor. Recall that my wife has me continuing the Pergo into the living room.

I have mixed feelings about the Pergo. It is very echoey. The dog's claws make loud tapping on this floor plus it is hard for her to get her footing. She really needs her claws trimmed and that will probably help. I would have preferred to use the prebacked flooing if it were not so much more per sq. ft. It almost would have been worth it for the time I would have saved not having to measure and cut all that foam backing.
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