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Old 10-03-2009, 07:35 PM   #1
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I will never think demolition is "fun and easy" after this!


I've always pictured any kind of demolition as being fun and a fairly easy job. What I did NOT take into account is the work required to move the debris into the truck, then unload it to the dump after, essentially having moved every piece at least 3 times.

Basically the basement in the house I bought was very 1960's style, plain blue carpet, paneling, and a final touch of mold. It also had a ceder closet and a 2 pc bathroom. I don't think that bathroom had been cleaned in at least 1 year.

So, I decided I wanted ALL of it out so I can just redo it from scratch how I want. Yeah... paneling was easy to remove, but it was installed over drywall! At first I was just going through with a crow bar until I realized it was juts making way too much dust, and a pain to cleanup.

So I modified a jig saw blade so it's just the right size to cut through the drywall. I cutted sections so I can punch out bigger pieces.

The insulation was all old and falling appart as I touched it, and the vapor barrier was like seran wrap, rather flimsy. To make matters worse, they put tar paper too! The studs were 2x2's and were nailed against the brick foundation.

After about 2 weeks of work (I work full time so only put in a few hours per day) it's done, and today I went to the dump.

Some pics can be found here.

Next step is to setup my patch panel and setup my servers. I'll put them on top of some of the decent condition 2x2's for now, but I plan to build a server room to house them in a proper rack/shelf.

The tricky part with demolition is, you can't just take a sludge hammer and start hitting. You don't know what's behind there, and like when working near the windows, had to be very careful I don't rip the whole window out with it, so had to confirm nothing was nailed against the frame or anything.

My dad had helped me remove the ceder closet and washroom a month or so ago, and he really made me nervous, hitting everything in every direction and pulling on anything mindlessly. The water main along with other piping was RIGHT there, and there was a junction box that had quite a few circuits in it that I had to keep track of and cleanup. I still need to fix the two plugs in the basement as right now they're just hanging there. I may install them on the joists, or just take them out completely and put two junction boxes instead. I also need to change those light fixtures to plain socket types as the recessed style ones there seem to block lot of the light from spreading.

It's fun owning a house. The limitation is money though, I want to build the server room now, but totally don't have that kind of money now.

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Old 10-03-2009, 10:47 PM   #2
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Red S ...

this is amazing ... i also recently purchased a 1970s house and also just finished demo-ing the basement ... and I live in Ontario!

funny how I can relate to all your troubles ... my post is here;

Complete 1970s House Renovation! (3 year project 2009-2012)

I've already filled 2 12 yard dumpsters ... so no shortage of crap in our basement.

Keep posting pics ... really interested in seeing your network setup - I purchased an IBM Home Director case from another house reno ... going to put that in!

good luck!

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Old 10-04-2009, 08:59 AM   #3
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I burn wood, so the only demo materials that go to the dump are PT, painted stuff or roof shingles

Demolition can be fun:
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:24 AM   #4
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I burn wood, so the only demo materials that go to the dump are PT, painted stuff or roof shingles

Demolition can be fun:
Is that a building implosion, or fireworks? lol

That could be a fun job... though even that, tons goes into it prior to the explosion. The fuse timings etc...

For the wood, I'll be keeping the decent looking pieces for small future projects where I need a small piece of wood for something, but lot of it will be going like the ones with 20 nails per square inch (these people really liked nails). I thought of getting a permit and making a camp fire pit though. Could be fun when getting friends over and stuff.
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Both, a building implosion with fireworks
Las Vegas likes to celebrate old Casino's being taken down

I burn the stuff with nails, nails just get scooped out afterwards
I have a big compost pile/garden where all the ashes go
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Old 10-04-2009, 12:52 PM   #6
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Red.,

I wish you the luck with all the work you are doing and make sure you get proper building permits { ya never know some dolts will show up } and if you have any issue just holler one of us will help you with the stuff what you need to be done with it.

With the ceiling is open it will be good time to check the all the cable / conductors in conduit to make sure they are up to stuff like good shape no burnted or brittle cables etc etc.

It will be good idea to run a spare conduit in case you will add something along the way so you don't have to mess around with the drywall twice.


If you have more question related to the electrical system just holler in electrical section one of us will guide ya in correct way.

For rest of building materals normally the stud {2X4's } spacing are typically 16 inch on centre so that way you can use the 4X8 foot sheet of drywall unless you get metric verison of it.

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Old 10-04-2009, 03:50 PM   #7
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So far all the wires seem ok. They're old, but they look ok. Only thing I need to check is that the 20 amp breakers are actually powering circuits that have 12awg and not 14. I may have to swap out some 20 amp breakers for 15's. I have 2 spare 15's as I had to put a double pole 30amp for a heater and consolidate a few circuits on one breaker. (mostly low use/wattage lighting circuits).

I did not get a permit though, don't think I need one for demolition but it's something I've been wondering about and probably should have got one from the start. I rather not get one now as they'll be suspicious as to why I did not get one before. When I start building the basement up I'll most likely get one though.

When I finish the basement I'll be going drop ceiling as well so I have full access to the ceiling, especially where the pipes are.
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:39 PM   #8
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Some more progress today. Started running the cabling and installed the patch panel:



Running it below the joists so I can be far enough from electrical, and it's not as hard on the cabling when pulling it through screw eyes as opposed to holes in the joists.

I need to replace the recessed lights with socket ones though, for better light.

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