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Old 10-29-2013, 09:02 PM   #31
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I can see with too large rafters, you might encroach into the 2nd
floor windows -
Then, fur down the rafters.

I understand the need for energy, concerns -
also, have seen structural problems that happen over time.

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I finally had time to check out the drawings. if you look next the window openings you'll notice "2-2x8". in my opinion this would be a 2 ply 2x8 header as I cannot think of another reason of having a 2 ply 2x8 at a window, certainly not sill, jack or king studs.

is the builder also the one that designed the home? if not, contact the designer and inquire from them .....

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Old 10-29-2013, 09:20 PM   #33
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Yeah, I see that Gary!
That might be OK.
Don't see anything over the windows on the outside of the sunroom -
(gable-end) -
What's going to hold up the end of the ridge beam -
unless it's scissor-trusses (Minimal load on the gable wall).
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:21 PM   #34
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Thanks for moving it; didn't think of putting it in here in this forum.

Got a bunch of trim molding in the current house to work on; I'll address the rest of the questions in the morning. Thanks everyone for the questions/input so far.
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:28 PM   #35
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No thanks needed!
Send money! (He, he, he!!)
Seriously - nice house - good for you!
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I didn't see anything on the gable end of the sunroom either.
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Yeah, Gary - you do have better eyes then I have, though!
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I don't believe the builder designed the plans/house. The main company is Charter Homes: http://www.charterhomes.com/ The builder is just doing this neighborhood. I see some of the available houses in this neighborhood also in their other neighborhoods.

With this sun room not having anything over it but a roof, does that change things in what some of you were asking? I'll get a look at the trusses this weekend.


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Just browsing through your prints I can see shear wall panels with specified nailing pattern, also holdowns are called out- this by far replaces old school let in cross bracing.
Holddowns? What does this mean? I assume this changes some original thoughts too?
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I would inquire of your builder (as soon as possible) why headers were not installed in accordance with the drawings. I'd point out the labeling on the drawing.

I'd inquire how the sunroom roof was to be constructed.

To create a cathedral ceiling as in your sunroom you need one of the following:

1. truss roof
2. structural ridge beam that would support 1/2 the live + dead loads of your roof, which in turn has a point load that would come down on the header on the gable end which has to be sized to account for this load since we do not have structural glass.
3. rafter ties (horizontal members that are found in the lower 1/3 of the rafter space. Rafter ties are spaced at a maximum of 48" o.c., if they are to support ceiling load then they have to have less spacing. A ceiling joist sitting on top of a wall is a type of rafter tie.

the purpose of these is to prevent what is known as rafter thrust (weight of roof loads) from pushing out the tops of load bearing exterior walls.

Holdowns are metal connectors that are attached to shear walls and connected to the foundation so that lateral loads (seismic and wind) do not push, rack or overturn the building.

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Holy hell. I think I will just stick to computer networks and race cars.

Reading along I see "asdglzkjxy WORD-I-KNOW(yesssss!) qblgasdfgawyasga WORD-I-KNOW(yesssss!) bdhyeydfyasf WORD-I-KNOW(yesssss!) dbfaf,qea/gghas WORD-I-KNOW(yesssss!) zxb.cndfasdfo. New Tab - www.google.com

I will go to Google half what you said to get a better understanding. Smart-@ comments aside, I DO appreciate the input...haha.
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hope this helps

cathedral ceiling http://www.finehomebuilding.com/how-...l-ceiling.aspx

rafter thrust http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...ed=0CDYQ9QEwAw

lateral load effect on buildings http://www.safestronghome.com/highwind/01.asp

holdowns http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hold_do...engineering%29
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is there a cross section of the sunroom in your drawings?
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Thanks Gary, I will go read those links! Cross section drawing of the sun room, is that not the one on the blueprint? The sun room is shown on some of the drawings at the bottom of page 2, but I assume that's not what you're looking for?

11' (gable wall length) x 9'6" (ridge)...

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I went back and looked and did not see a cross section posted. A cross section is similar to the exterior elevation. Imagine taking your house and slicing it like a loaf of bread so you can see what's inside. It should explain the construction of the various assemblies such as floor, roof, walls, etc.

I wanted to see what they had specified for your roof construction in the sunroom.
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I'd be freaking out about now.

Not even a jack stud anywhere that I could see. Looks like the load will eventually break the windows.

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