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Old 10-29-2013, 05:57 PM   #16
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I would not design a home with headers like this, but wood structural panel box headers are allowed by the 2009 International Residential Code. See Table R602.7.2 for limitations.

http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/ic...9_6_sec002.htm

contact your building department for determination of YOUR code requirements. Check to ensure an inspection will be performed on the frame.

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Thanks for the link, I'll look it over when things calm down around here.

Silly question, but doesn't framing require an inspection on new construction of a house?
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Thanks for the link, I'll look it over when things calm down around here.

Silly question, but doesn't framing require an inspection on new construction of a house?
Always. But the sad thing is, this is minimum code, and I personally would not want to live in that structure, with how they built it.
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Have your contractor block each side of the window openings for curtains and drapes. I am an old time builder so I am not familiar with that type of header, but it don't look very sturdy.
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Silly question, but doesn't framing require an inspection on new construction of a house?
in my area you have to have a framing inspection. it occurs after the rough plumbing, electrical and HVAC has been installed.

I cannot speak for your area, that's why I said call the building department where the home is being constructed.

I am not a fan of that type of header myself.

Do you have a set of design drawings? if so what it specified in them?
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Now is there a way as a "buyer" to go and "make" the builder do/change things? Roof is already on, and it should be finished tomorrow (roof). Something I could show him that says "No, this is code, and this is the way it is supposed to be done." ?

When is the determination made between a header and cripple studs in an opening?

Are there code violations you see, or just not following "best practices"?

I just don't understand. They're using a crap-ton of lumber, does it really take THAT much more time to build it better?

RE: Diagonal bracing, I think I see some in post #3, pics 1 / 2 / 3 / 5 / 6, unless you are talking about something else?

I don't believe it has "passed" yet, as it is still in the framing stages.
That diagonal bracing you see in post #3, is just there to keep that wall from falling outwards, until they get that missing section in place. The diagonal bracing would be at the corners, so that the walls do not flex during winds.
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Thanks for the link, I'll look it over when things calm down around here.

Silly question, but doesn't framing require an inspection on new construction of a house?
Yes, because banks do not like to close on the loan, when the structure has not been inspected, or is noted as a possible hazard to life and property. Bring it up with your banker & local AHJ that you are just questioning the building practices, that you just do not consider it something that you are comfortable with, and would like the more traditional headers to be done above windows and doorways within the home, and at entry points.

The last thing you want to do, is spend all of this money, then have after five years, the home starting to show signs of shoddy construction.
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When I was doing a lot of framing -
We just put in double 2 X 12's over all openings -
Unless the openings were over 12 ft. -
then, double 2 X 12's (Or 2 X 14's) with steel flitch, plate (SP) -bolted.
Now it's "Microlams".

(I don't like to see "ANY" openings, without headers!)
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OK I uploaded the site grading and plans. Best I can do...click to zoom. If you want a close-up of anything specific let me know...























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I just found the pictures from how they framed the bathroom window in my house. Doorways are framed the same way in my place, but it is better than how they did your place.
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Post #9 -
We would have headers 2 X 10's/2 X12's over all openings on that sunroom.
The partition between the kitchen and the sunroom -
Double 2 x 12's.

How is the exterior end of your ridge beam going to be supported?
The middle of the window, with 2 X 4's and plywood? -
Unless it's a hip-roof.

Also, what kind of roof on the sunroom? cathedral/vaulted? -
I hope they used 2 X 10's - adequate insulation!
(We'd use 12's)

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How is the exterior end of your ridge beam going to be supported?
The middle of the window, with 2 X 4's and plywood? -
Unless it's a hip-roof.
Does this answer the roof question? I'm not sure. I will get some more pictures when I go up next time. Sun room is the one that sticks out the back of the house in the middle (I'm sure you got that. )





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Yeah, that's show's more. Hope 10's or 12's for the rafters on the
sunroom.
Don't know what you're soffit is going to be - continuous vent on the soffit - ridge vent.
Good looking house!
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Just browsing through your prints I can see shear wall panels with specified nailing pattern, also holdowns are called out- this by far replaces old school let in cross bracing.

I think I also saw reference to 2009 code- sounds pretty current.
I too don't like the header design- hard to get used to new ideas, but it must meet code......
I'm thinking this is done for energy efficiency- rather than being solid wood you can now fill that area with insulation. Same with some of you exterior corners and partition intersections.

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