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Old 06-15-2010, 05:16 PM   #1381
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Various thinsets have differing characteristics.

For example,
unmodified thinset has components that will allow the thinset to dry/cure on its own chemically. Once activated with water the curing process begins almost immediately. This isn't to say the products don't have a workable pot-life because they certainly do. When used on a substrate that has the ability to wick-away moisture the drying process speeds up. If the tile bisque also draws/wicks a little moisture then all aspects of curing are quickly set into motion.

When used between two products such as a plastic crack membrane and a porcelain tile the wicking is non-existent and the curing process slows slightly but non-the-less takes place on its own.

On the other hand,
modified thinset requires an ability to evaporate moisture for a proper cure. The larger the tiles the slower the ability to evaporate moisture because the evaporation process must reach out for a grout joint to be able to allow the moisture to escape.

Team modified thinset with a plastic crack membrane and a porcelain tile which has an absorption rate of only one half of one percent and the curing/drying process slows tremendously. Hence smaller tiles cure/dry quicker than larger tiles.

This is why most of the membrane manufacturers want you to use unmodified thinset to install your tile over thier products.

It's not that the modified thinset won't cure/dry if given enough time, it's because in today's "fast-track-building" practices, over-night or twenty-four hours just isn't enough time for the modified thinset to cure to a point that foot traffic can't compromise the bond. Everyone seems to want everything to happen right now!

It is my understanding that modified thinsets are actually made with co-polymers. It is when the water is added that the co-polymers become polymers. This is why modified thinset must be allowed to slake (stand) for a time then be remixed for it to unleash its magic.

This is a basic explanation of what takes place and my knowledge is minimal. I have now exhausted most every micron of knowledge I possess on the subject.

I know I know...TOO MUCH INFORMATION!
No special plastic membranes here, and besides which it can have all the time in the world to cure.

This Ultraflex LFT has polymers (they don't mention co-polymers) but perhaps they are speaking of the after-mixing state.

They do say that tile set with this product should not be walked on until after it has been grouted. Grouting should wait for 24 hours after the tile has been laid. Must be quite a trick grouting without walking on the tile!

Walls, evidently may be grouted 8 - 12 hours after setting.

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Old 06-15-2010, 05:18 PM   #1382
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That faucet is one of those "Fancy Smancy" Waterfall, LED lit things isn't it? I see them advertised here sometimes. That will be so 70's in 20 years. dorf dude...
Hey, hey, hey, I thought we went through this "Fancy Smancy" thing before. It's fancy dancy here if you don't mind.

No LED's in this guy...and I did so love the '70's...Pink Floyd, Stones, Bee Gees...
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Fancy smancy? nope. Fancy dancy? nope. Fancy shmancy? Yep!

Thanks for all the great information Bud.

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Fancy smancy? nope. Fancy dancy? nope. Fancy shmancy? Yep!

Thanks for all the great information Bud.

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OK, you win, Fancy Shmancy it is...
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No LED's in this guy...and I did so love the '70's...Pink Floyd, Stones, Bee Gees...
Where does the disco ball go?
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Old 06-15-2010, 07:20 PM   #1386
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Where does the disco ball go?
Let me give that some thought...I'll get right back to you!
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Probably not in the shower. They weren't rated for wet environments and disco dancing in the shower could cause a slip & fall mishap - with or without a leisure suit on.
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Probably not in the shower. They weren't rated for wet environments and disco dancing in the shower could cause a slip & fall mishap - with or without a leisure suit on.
Based on this information, I'm guessing that I should remove the one in my shower...

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...you guys are just slaying me...
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Let me know what happens when you lean down and get a drink off the faucet? It seems that it would run down your cheek and chin. dorf dude...
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I thought you went to a bar to get a drink..
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Sorry about not keeping up with the posting...

The missus was going to get the soffit stained before she left for Vancouver, never happened.

Might as well enjoy the view while I'm doing it...
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Tiling around this sink is proving to be somewhat of a challenge.

I screwed a temporary support for the face tiles under the framing. They got stuck on and left alone for a day.
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Originally, I was going to lay the countertop tiles using just the large full tiles. It didn't look so good what with a sharp edge running off the front. So I added the small square ones to improve the look of the border.

Then cut the remainder of the top tiles.
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Old 06-18-2010, 10:11 PM   #1395
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Before I set the top tiles, I put the sink drain in temporarily to make sure of no problems.

It seems to be all right.

The other pic...is this a swallowtail or a monarch butterfly? I never know which is which.
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