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Old 05-24-2010, 11:06 AM   #1111
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You have done a fine job of documenting your 'diddling'...

Hope it works out well...

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Old 05-24-2010, 05:52 PM   #1112
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Was going to suggest 'squeezing' the tips of metal tubes to build up line pressure to create a spray on blade..but thought that might overwork pump, and water flow always beats spray..hands down. Did my whole upstairs bathroom with a rented one...that went through 3 blades (on them), for the same reason you experienced..but got the job done, and took it back when done...phew! Now the dilemma, buy more tiles to cut to justify machines existence,..or when done, clean, wrap up, and put away for?? Funny how both you and Shu are doing "tiletoons".
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:26 PM   #1113
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You have done a fine job of documenting your 'diddling'...

Hope it works out well...

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I got to try the saw out today, and the water system is now perfect.
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:33 PM   #1114
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Was going to suggest 'squeezing' the tips of metal tubes to build up line pressure to create a spray on blade..but thought that might overwork pump, and water flow always beats spray..hands down. Did my whole upstairs bathroom with a rented one...that went through 3 blades (on them), for the same reason you experienced..but got the job done, and took it back when done...phew! Now the dilemma, buy more tiles to cut to justify machines existence,..or when done, clean, wrap up, and put away for?? Funny how both you and Shu are doing "tiletoons".
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I would have been quite prepared to do just that, but fortunately it wasn't required.

One thing that did happen though...on about the second or third tile I pushed through the saw the blade went "dry" again. You know right away when that happens, as the edge of the blade immediately turns the same colour as the bisque of the tile.

The plastic tube had been pulled off the pump by the tiles moving over them.

I re-routed the tubing under the roller guide.

I can see another problem developing when I go to cut the long tiles. The tube won't be long enough. So what I will need to do is to get a longer tube and run it somehow outside of the tile, then up and over. I expect I will have to jury rig something to hold that in place.

Who ever designed this thing obviously hasn't done much tile cutting.

Just going to d/l some pics from the camera...really don't know if there will be anything worth posting.
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The two books I refer to most when tiling are the ones by Michael Byrne and John Bridge, both well acknowledged experts.

When taping the corners, I like Michaels idea of running one piece of tape down each of the side walls, then folding a third piece of tape and sticking it over both of them like so...

Yes, I think that might be my finger holding the tape back so you can see how it goes.
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With the saw working OK, at least for now, I cut the tiles for about half the shower walls today.

This is the lower part of the first wall I tackled.
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I had barely got started when visitors arrived unannounced of course...

The wife gave them tea and cookies and sent them packing...well, not really, but you know what I mean

Nothing ever seems to go quite as planned when you're tiling, and I noticed that these porcelain tiles were not all the same size. There were variations up to 3/32".

That may not sound like much, but stack a few up and it doesn't take long to show up...big time.

This wall wasn't too bad...
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That wall is where the showerhead is, hence the little mouse hole for the control.
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The saw has a couple of extension tables to handle larger tiles, which is a good idea.

I think it would have been even better if they had extended the backstop as well so you could have used the guide clamp right across the whole width of the extended table.

Yes, I know you can use the other side...but when the tiles are not identical in size, that isn't much help.

I guess this is as good an answer as any...use a clamp to hold the guide in place, only sideways.
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Tomorrow I get to tackle the long side wall of the shower. Yep, it's curved.

I am expecting to cut the tiles into thirds, or about 4 1/4" wide, so that they will not have any problem staying put.

One other thing I will likely do is to make sure they are all the same height, even if they have to be cut. I don't need any more surprises half way up a wall!
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We are using almost the same tile! Mine is on the floor though. You don't want to cut them to length and loose the factory edge do you? I was looking at some wood flooring and the guy told me that they not exactly the same width and I should lay them out first and get matching ones for each row. I guess that's why it was cheaper and the price got my attention. Looking good, dorf dude...
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Hi, was rereading some of your past posts, re "T" you built, and your racing in Yukon. I was on a racing team, (mechanic), on a 67 Chev impala, sponsored by the only Speed shop then in the Yukon, in Whitehorse, and we used to race out past McRae, on the 'dirt', at the fairgrounds. But that was '73..'74. Memory fails me as to whom driver was, or Sponsor. Is that where you raced up there?
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Hi, was rereading some of your past posts, re "T" you built, and your racing in Yukon. I was on a racing team, (mechanic), on a 67 Chev impala, sponsored by the only Speed shop then in the Yukon, in Whitehorse, and we used to race out past McRae, on the 'dirt', at the fairgrounds. But that was '73..'74. Memory fails me as to whom driver was, or Sponsor. Is that where you raced up there?
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Syd, you're simply not going to believe this at all.

I was in the Yukon from 1969 to the end of 1974. I had a couple of different cars...one a 1960 Chevy with a 283, the other was a (cringe) '34 Ford Vicky that we pulled out of the bush. As you know, there's almost no such thing as rust up there. I unbolted the back fenders and the welting came off in one piece!

Let me drop a couple of names and see if you remember any of them. Ted English, Mike Blumenschein, Gerry (something or other) big guy, I think more names will come to me if I think about it a bit. There was a Henry Wenting, who I think was sponsored by Northern Industrial or something like that. And a last name of Taylor, whose dad had the fuel company up there.

I sponsored my own car under Paddlewheel Gulf, the service station just south of Whitehorse.

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We are using almost the same tile! Mine is on the floor though. You don't want to cut them to length and loose the factory edge do you? I was looking at some wood flooring and the guy told me that they not exactly the same width and I should lay them out first and get matching ones for each row. I guess that's why it was cheaper and the price got my attention. Looking good, dorf dude...
Hi Shu:

If your wood flooring is machine made, and pre-finished, it should be the same size. If it is unfinished, it may vary a little, but not by much. Is it T & G?

Re the tiles, I don't care about the factory edge, it's not that good anyway.

I have just cut a whole load of these tiles to width (at 4 1/4") and found out a few more things.

Firstly, the blade on the tile saw was not square to my cutting table. Nothing at all in the instructions about any of this, but there is an adjustment which is quite obvious and pretty simple to set. So I got that all squared up.

Then the stop you use to push the tile up against was also not machined square on the notch where it slides back and forth. Temporarily (where have I heard that before?) I have put a high priced shim in one side to bring the stop square. I'll have some pics later. Just taking a break to do some glass installation in a couple of the ensuite windows.

And I will be using that tile on the floor as well. We have about 350 square feet of it - give or take.

And you already know that almost all of the tiles are not square, right? That's just a damn nuisance.
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sometimes, and you may know this the tiles have a directional marking on the back which lets you lay them the way they were fabricated and keeps sizes uniform. The other thing i have done is do a dry lay on the floor to eliminate tiles with too much variation. I'm not a tile guy but this has worked for me

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