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Old 01-08-2009, 01:53 AM   #76
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Remember earlier I was trying to explain how the rafters on the front side of the roof were attached to that big beam?
Here you can see somewhat how the roof curves. Not the best shot, but you get the idea.
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:05 AM   #77
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Sometime last summer I took the skiff around the island to get a series of shots for our community website that I try to look after.
This is the house and cabin from out in front of the island.
We face a south-westerly direction on this side of the island. Definitely the best side for sunshine! This should put everything into perspective a bit better for you.
You see down on the bank in front of the house there is a sundeck.
Remember the Long Way sign?
We call this deck Longview.
Our good friend Ted Long used to come up and visit us frequently, and I always had to make sure I had a stock of Mars bars on hand. Ted loved his Mars bars.
So we would make a cup of tea and bring out some cookies. Then I would always offer Ted a Mars bar.

"Oh, I really shouldn't" he would say.
But, of course, he always did.
I'm not quite sure if you can notice it, but yes, even that deck is curved.
Will I NEVER learn???
The bench type seats done out in that delightful purple color are two big chunks of arbutus.
Arbutus trees usually grow in any direction but straight. So I had the chunk from the bottom of a tree with a big curve in it, and had no idea what to use it for.
So after the deck was done, it just so happened that the chunk of arbutus was nearly the same curve as the deck.
On to the sawmill it went and I sliced two thick chunks out of it and Bob's your uncle. Instant seats.
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:41 AM   #78
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Cocobolo...This looks like a dream come true. I would love to be able to retreat to a self sufficient island like yours and build my own house from scratch. You truly are a craftsman and hope you are enjoying every minute of your journey, I know i would be. Maybe someday i will be as lucky as you are. I really like following these stories and will continue as long as you post. Best of wishes for you and your wife in your paradise.
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I have a question for all you clever guys and gals out there.
I am going to have to figure out just exactly how to get this thing up in the air by myself. There is no help at all here. Wife is not able, and there is nobody else around at the moment. I can just lift the whole thing, but there is no way on this green earth that I could lift it in the air, never mind fix it exactly in the right place. Any brilliant ideas?
Could you possibly use block and tackle to get it close to the height needed, and then brace and position from below with T braces? I do not recall any pictures of the kitchen to have a better idea of just what you are dealing with.
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I did think of something like that, but there is a bit of a problem. Because of the shape - that annoying curve again - I would need three B & T's so it would balance OK on the way up. And I would think that the valence would only manage to get within about a foot and a half of the ceiling. Then again, I only have one block and tackle.
I really need some sort of cunning system which will let me raise it up slowly and carefully, while at the same time allowing me to get it ever so precisely in place for the final attachment.
Since this is rather a specific question, I think I might try a thread just for that. I don't think too many people are going to read all the way through this oddball stuff just to find that question.
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Old 01-08-2009, 06:26 PM   #81
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Took this one a few days after our first big snowfall of the season. We actually had some sun at the time!
Then later that evening, also a semi-decent sunset. Very rare in the winter.
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With sincere thanks to those who offered help, I have the valence up.

It ended up being far easier than I thought.
Here's what I did.
First lifted the valance, one end at a time, onto three upturned buckets. Forgot to take a pic of that.
Then I got three 8' 2 x 4's and clamped them onto the valence as in the picture and from there, just moved one end, then the middle, then the other end up several inches at a time. In order for the valence not to come crashing down on my beleaguered head, I also tied a short piece of rope around each end of the valence and the two posts. Voila!
Once it was more or less in place, I was able to jiggle (specialized construction term for those of you unfamiliar with such language) it into line and get the screws in.
Here is the unit going up.
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And just to show you that it really did work that easily, here is another going up and one in place. It took about 15 minutes to do the lifting and about the same to do all the fastening.
When I was cutting out all the curves for the valence and the counter, I worked out how many pieces of wood I would require for the whole lot.
I did the cutting with a router on a long trammel, with the adjustment for the various radii being done by the simple expedient of either shortening or lengthening the trammel as necessary. It actually took me a couple of evenings to get all the curved pieces cut.
So, now that the valence is in, the base will be a cinch.
I have also pre-made all the pieces of cedar for both the valence and the base, and good wife has been spending the past number of days with a varnish brush in hand.
Basically just have to glue, nail, screw and/or gun things into place.
I'm gonna be burning the midnight oil tonight.
Thanks again to all who offered help.
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I don't mean to be rude, but i didn't read everything which you have wrote here in this thread, but the pictures are just amazing !
Everything is just great, all the best to you finishing this project.
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It looks like you finished the inside of the floor joist with cedar or something? Are you planning on wrapping every joist?
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Hi Ponch:
On the main floor area of the ceiling, there are two large built up beams which hang 2" below the ceiling itself. The ceiling of course being the bottom of the joists.
I still have some wiring to finish inside the ceiling, and as soon as that is done I will cover the ceiling with - of all things - OSB.
I would much have preferred to use drywall, but it was simply a question of what I could get transported over here. If I can't move it, then I can't use it.
Since drywall sheets need to be moved in pairs, unfortunately for me that is not possible.
So we tried a test piece of OSB which we painted with two undercoats of Kilz as a primer. Then two coats of CIL Dulux semi-gloss latex. It has a different texture to it, as we are using the "wrong side" down.
We have already pre-painted some of the sheets, so I should be able to get the first up sometime today.
As well as the two big built up beams, there are two other beams which finish this area off as a form of enclosure. So just the area above the kitchen and dining area will have the OSB treatment. The rest of the ceilings, and this applies to almost the whole house except for the bathrooms, is being done out in western red cedar.
I shall see if I can get a pic for you later today to better explain this.
With all these weird angles words don't quite seem able to explain it.
But you are right to a degree, where the beams do hang down that 2", I will be doing that out in cedar.
As you can probably tell, I like cedar. And it would have been my choice for that part of the ceiling also. But since this was over the kitchen area, and since the kitchen is in the middle of the house, we decided to opt for the light colored ceiling to make that area brighter. The dull color of the cedar tends to darken a room somewhat.
We have lots of windows in the house, 91 at last count if I remember rightly, so generally speaking, the house is quite bright inside.
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Hi iMisspell:
I can hardly expect everyone to read all this lot, it is turning out to be a book!
So, no, I certainly don't think you are being rude. And I thank you for your kind comments.
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This is what i was wondering about? At first i thought maybe it was the floor above it but it looks like shadows, like the finished wood is installed between the joists?
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Gotcha!!
OK, I guess I didn't quite get it right, did I?
Those "shadows" are in fact not shadows. Let me explain.
When the house was going up, I knew it was going to take a very long time before the roof got on. Therefore, I knew things were going to get wet.
What I had to do was cut wood on the sawmill for whatever I was doing, then install that, then go get more logs to cut more wood for the next part.
When I made the trus-joists, it was obvious to me that they were going to get their fair share of rain, and so I cut strips of 15 lb. roofing felt and covered them over. That shadow you are looking at is roofing felt. The joists are constructed of 2 1/2" wide lumber top and bottom, with verticals about every 2 feet or so I think. Then the OSB was cut at 9 1/2" wide, and attached with construction glue and many nails. If you ever need to get yourself some really tough joists for cheap, this is as good a way as any.
The boards you see above the joists are the subfloor.
I actually have two layers of wood up there now, and it appears that I may use some sort of wood flooring as the finish.
That's not quite cast in stone yet, but likely.
I have to say I envy you guys who can add all these little bits and pieces to a picture. My computer knowledge is almost up to kindergarten level...almost.
I just got some pics of the ceiling from different places so you can see the general shape better. Nothing around here ever seems to be square!
Here you can see how that big beam hangs just below the ceiling. The side which is done in cedar will be the living room.
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Now we are looking at the same place, but from the other side.
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