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Old 06-23-2014, 10:06 AM   #8041
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Hi Guys! I'm so glad that I introduced you to the the RMH! A few pointers about the Creosote. According to everything I have read, there is not much buildup at all of the Creosote in these because of the way they burn. They basically re-burn if that makes any sense.

So happy that you got one going. Isn't it neat to be able to get something that powerful without spending a bundle of cash?!? I have ordered the firebrick for mine and we are still on the hunt for the brick for the thermal mass. We have found some free material for the rubble.

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Creosote buildup is really bad, I had one creosote fire and that was enough, that stove sounded like a jet warming up, I thought I was going to burn the house down.

If I can figure out how and where, I would like to try one of the heaters out in the shop, all the heat I have out there is one little electric heater. That does sound encouraging, buddy, thanks again.

Hi Jim,

I accidentally deleted my reply. For shop use, I recommend Zero Fossil Fuel's design as he has done extensive testing for safety and is using it in his lab up in the woods up North.

https://www.youtube.com/user/ZeroFossilFuel
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Hi Guys! I'm so glad that I introduced you to the the RMH! A few pointers about the Creosote. According to everything I have read, there is not much buildup at all of the Creosote in these because of the way they burn. They basically re-burn if that makes any sense.

So happy that you got one going. Isn't it neat to be able to get something that powerful without spending a bundle of cash?!? I have ordered the firebrick for mine and we are still on the hunt for the brick for the thermal mass. We have found some free material for the rubble.
Why don't you use sand or mortar for the mass? I don't know if that would work or not. I am excited about the heater, I am going to give one a try a little later, I need to straighten the shop up first.

I can see how the creosote would be burned up in this stove, no smoke, no creosote.

Thanks for the link, there is some neat stuff there.
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Hi Jim, we will use sand and some mortar. The mortar is a poorer thermal mass radiant so we will only use it to bind the bricks. Sand works very well. Right now we are trying to find free brick to avoid having to purchase it.

I look forward to your results!
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Jim: You're doing what all us newbies do...trying to reinvent the wheel.
The best solution first is to buy the book. I have to dig up a link where you can get it for $10...otherwise you can go to the rocketstoves.com website and get a download for $18 less a 25% discount with a discount password. I have to find the $10 link...it's written somewhere in the book.

Let me get back to you on that.

In the meantime, try the Permies.com website. Go way down the left side and eventually you will come to the rocket mass heater section. Click and enjoy a LOT of very interesting reading.
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This website offers some neat designs and photos. Lots of inspiration.

http://www.inspirationgreen.com/rock...s-heaters.html
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This website offers some neat designs and photos. Lots of inspiration.

http://www.inspirationgreen.com/rock...s-heaters.html
Melissa, is the book you have by Ianto Evans? If so, there are about 15 links in the back of the book with all manner of great stuff. I doubt any of us could wade our way through it all in a lifetime.

I do have one question for you. Are you going to use all three of your barrels stacked up like you show in your photo?
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This website offers some neat designs and photos. Lots of inspiration.

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Wow, that is a bunch of good reading, I appreciate that a lot.
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Melissa, is the book you have by Ianto Evans? If so, there are about 15 links in the back of the book with all manner of great stuff. I doubt any of us could wade our way through it all in a lifetime.

I do have one question for you. Are you going to use all three of your barrels stacked up like you show in your photo?
Hi Keith,

I do have the book by Ianto. We will not be stacking three high as it will be too hot and tall. We will stack two high (but will cut a part off of one barrel) so really 1 and 2/3. We estimate that will be the perfect size to get the amount of heat required for the thermal mass.

It really is an experimental process. Our exhaust will be on the other side of the greenhouse so our thermal mass will be quite large. Hoping to maximize the amount of heat storage. I can't wait for the fire brick to arrive so that we can start testing.
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I do have the book by Ianto. We will not be stacking three high as it will be too hot and tall. We will stack two high (but will cut a part off of one barrel) so really 1 and 2/3. We estimate that will be the perfect size to get the amount of heat required for the thermal mass.
Oboy...are you going to be surprised at how hot those barrels will get!
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Back at Post #8,000, I got started on the water tank fix. Today I went in search of something better than rope to fix the problem with. And voila! I found the old 1/2" steel hoops that I originally used to build the old wood tank by the cabin. Sometimes it pays not to throw old junk away.

I'm going to see if I can get three hoops on the big tank, which means I will need at least two full hoops from the old tank to make one for the new tank.

I moved a few hoops up to get started this morning.
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It may not be readily apparent from that pic, but those hoops have been outside n the weather for more than 15 years. The nuts and threads have become well and truly rusted. No matter how much force I applied to the nut, none of them would budge.

So I resorted to cutting the nuts off by splitting them apart with my grinder.
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Following that I had to clean the old threads up, and the only way that was going to happen was to use a die. Nothing else would touch the heavy rust.
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Next step was to try and partly straighten out the old hoops to fit the big tank. That wasn't too bad, but sort of like trying to make spaghetti stay in place.

Two of the hoops didn't quite make it all the way around the tank, so then I needed something to complete the circle in order to get the first one tightened up.

Once again lady luck was on my side and I had a piece of stainless steel 1/2" threaded rod on hand. But it was too short. But then I found a second piece which made it long enough.
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Needing all these extra pieces necessitated the use of additional connectors. Yet again lady luck was smiling upon me today (must have been the sunny day here) and I came across a bunch of extra ones that I had welded up all those years ago.
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