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Old 05-12-2013, 02:16 PM   #7606
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the set I have comes in four, although they are a few years old. The other good product I like is their rare earth magnets, I use them to hold my wrenches onto the front base of my cabinet saw, comes in very handy in other places as well.

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the set I have comes in four, although they are a few years old. The other good product I like is their rare earth magnets, I use them to hold my wrenches onto the front base of my cabinet saw, comes in very handy in other places as well.

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You could well be right, I've had mine for many years.

I have the magnets as well, the little round guys. Man, but they are strong.
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OK...so today I got started on trying to fix the first stair posts in place, and get the riser covers ready to go. I decided to paint the risers, rather than stain and Varathane, mainly because that colour is already on several places and it looks passably fair.

You can be the judge of that.

Here's the post under the handrail which has been hanging out to dry seemingly forever. I want to fasten it from behind, rather than drill a couple of humongous holes through the front of the post. However, I need 12 foot long arms to reach all the way around, so I shall have to enlist the aid of my pal when I do that.

It was bad enough having to drill holes through the top of that handrail...I held my breath and hoped it would go OK.
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And a few posts on the inside of the stairs as well, and you should be able to see the first of the riser covers in place.
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Beautiful buddy, that is going to be one sharp stairs. I like the painted risers, they look good.
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I would have to agree with BigJim, in that the painted risers are your best choice. It also tends to make the railings stand out more. Great job Keith. Are you going to put in plugs over the lag bolts on the bottom? Silly question I am sure....lol
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I would have to agree with BigJim, in that the painted risers are your best choice. It also tends to make the railings stand out more. Great job Keith. Are you going to put in plugs over the lag bolts on the bottom? Silly question I am sure....lol
Well, this may surprise you, but no. The size of the holes is such (1" for the washers) that I don't have a plug cutter anywhere near that big. So, I'm going to paint the boltheads and washers after the last install.

Right now I have bolted all the posts in place and I will be laying out the tops of the posts where they need to be cut off. It looks like I might need to wait awhile before I get the cutting done as it is raining here, and I need to use the miter saw to do the cutting. It is set up outside under a tarp.

The process will be to cut the first two posts, then make the first piece of the handrail, shape, sand and install it. Then cut the next post, lay out the next section of railing etc. I'm estimating about another 38 hours for the finished railing.

P.S. All the painted risers are installed, makes quite a difference.
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You can get plugs that size from Finishing Touch. They are used for installing railings and filling in the holes. Not sure if one is close to you but I do know they are available. Just a thought.
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There might be a Finishing Touch over in Nanaimo...but don't forget I only made the countersunk holes deep enough to bring the heads flush with the outside edge of the posts. Good idea, but they can keep their plugs and I'll keep my money.

Sure not getting much of a break in this weather. We've had two heavy sustained rain showers today and plenty of wind...it's pretty fierce right now out there.

I thought I had a nice long piece of clear red cedar for the handrail on the stairs...but when I unearthed it, it turned out to be hemlock. AAAARGH! So I had to dig under the house to see if there was any cedar left and I found a chunk from an old growth piece. About 3 1/4" thick, around 7" wide but wild edges, and 9 feet long. I did manage to get enough of the short pieces out to cover the handrail, but now comes the super slow part. All the fitting, shaping and sanding of each piece.
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Just so you know the plugs they sell for doing handrails are about 3/8" thick. Sounds like you got your work cut out for you with all that fitting and shaping and sanding and finishing. Just think how much you will enjoy it once it is allllllllll done. Sorry Keith just couldn't help myself. Keep up the great work of art. It is all simply stunning
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Quite the wild weather day here today. Lots of wind...one minute we are in a huge rain squall, the next the sun is out. And so it went all day. It was a battle between me and the rain trying to get some cutting done on the handrail pieces. Mother nature came out on top of that one...repeatedly.

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One more time...here we go again. This time it's the far side of the handrail around the floor opening.

The wood is all ready to go, first couple of rows glued together here. Hope to have it done sometime later this week.
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I have decided to put the cedar together for the handrail up the stairs in the form of unfinished blocks first.

That has now been done, and everything will need to be taken apart for the shaping and sanding and then re-installed.
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I hadn't thought about building a rail with blocks like that. I made mine in strips sitting right on the tread edge and since you have the balusters installed, I would have clamped the strips to the balusters. I used wax paper to keep the glue off everything, but that is just me. On a manufactured radius rail, it was suggested to use baby powder to keep the glue from sticking to the form, take my word for it, that doesn't work.

Your rail in the bedroom is looking good buddy.
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Couldn't use the tread edge method here Jim, because the posts are all curved inward, which changes the radius. The blocks will all get shaped in due course.

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