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Old 01-21-2013, 12:52 PM   #7381
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You're welcome for the sunset pics Jim. We've had a couple nice ones in the last two days.

As for the little house, it's basically two shed roofed buildings facing each other. The house portion has one building inside the other, with a complete layer of insulation separating the two, except for the floor of course.

I'm still trying to see if there is a way to do two separate layers in the roof as well. But if not, it won't matter much as the foam board on top will give me the thermal break I want.

Making the model has already shown a couple of places where it can be improved.

One thing that won't be made on the model is an airlock entrance to the house on the east side, and very likely one for the greenhouse entrance as well. Opening an outside door in wintertime wastes a massive amount of heat. Not to mention that doors are typically ridiculously low in the R-value department.

I expect the house airlock will contain the batteries etc. for the solar system, and I will use the greenhouse airlock to store needed tools for greenhouse use.
Keith I have thought about the double roof, but down this way it would be to keep the heat out. A double roof with a space between them would allow of air flow as the roof is heated, like a chimney, heat rises and would pull in cooler air from the lower eves keeping the under roof much cooler and making the insulation much more efficient. Just my thoughts.

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Keith I have thought about the double roof, but down this way it would be to keep the heat out. A double roof with a space between them would allow of air flow as the roof is heated, like a chimney, heat rises and would pull in cooler air from the lower eves keeping the under roof much cooler and making the insulation much more efficient. Just my thoughts.
Yes Jim, that's exactly right. In some of the warmer desert countries they use what looks like a tall chimney to cool their houses. The taller the chimney the greater the cooling effect.
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Received an email yesterday from a flooring forum site in the UK which I made a few posts on over a year ago.

One of their less educated members took a poke at me which I took offense to. So, not taking kindly to that, I poked back. No trouble with him since.

But one of the more decent folks there asked how I made out with installing carpet on the curved stairs here, and could I post a pic. Well, you've all seen the top flight of stairs carpeted, but I failed to get around to doing the bottom stairs.

Everything is more or less ready to go, except that I still need to make a half elliptic shape of bullnose for the oddball outside part of the bottom step.

The easiest way is to rip a batch of thin strips and use the step itself as a mold. I have the pieces sitting in a clamp and I'll leave them there for a few days so the wood takes a set. It should glue up more easily that way.
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Keith, I was fascinated how you used the flat clamp..which I have never seen..because I can;t do wood..to make a perfect bend to the size and 'bend'..you wanted..very cool! I once bent a hardwood 'set' of gunnels for the top of my 17.5 canoe, in Prince George, in winter (-40 F..same C) by 'pegging the wood to the sundeck where I was renting..and pouring boiling water on it evryday..and 'moving' it a little more..and by Spring..I had the shape I needed..only problem..I made it out of Oak..and it was a ***** to portage on trips!
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Keith, I was fascinated how you used the flat clamp..which I have never seen..because I can;t do wood..to make a perfect bend to the size and 'bend'..you wanted..very cool! I once bent a hardwood 'set' of gunnels for the top of my 17.5 canoe, in Prince George, in winter (-40 F..same C) by 'pegging the wood to the sundeck where I was renting..and pouring boiling water on it evryday..and 'moving' it a little more..and by Spring..I had the shape I needed..only problem..I made it out of Oak..and it was a ***** to portage on trips!
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Let me guess Syd...the ***** means "blast". No?
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Here's a shot of the weather over Syd's way late this afternoon. We had sun here most of the day in beautiful downtown Ruxton!
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Here's the latest in roof trusses...one you've never seen before.

The criteria for the build were that it had to be:

1. Easy to build.
2. Reasonably priced.
3. Light weight.
4. Able to have very high R-value insulation.
5. Easy to install, i.e. less than 5 minutes each.
6. Provide built in summer shading.
7. Provide fall/winter sun ingress.
8. Have very high loading capability.
9. No need for bracing once installed.
10. No need to be vented.
11. C'mon...isn't that enough?

This is a 1/4 scale model primarily designed to see whether or not it would actually work. It would be subjected to a load test to exceed any possible field load that might arise. It will be the cube of the size, 4 x 4 x 4, or 64, that governs the numbers.

To explain that a little, the actual volume of this truss is 1/64 of the full size truss. Therefore, weight tests may reasonably be multiplied by 64 to arrive at real world numbers.

On a finished roof, using the case of the current plans, the outer roof skin will be 5/8" T & G plywood, and the inner skin 7/16" OSB. This will effectively turn the roof into a giant box beam which will increase the load bearing capacity by a factor of at least 2.
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I took the truss outside and set it up in about the same position as it would be on a building, which will be at a 4/12 pitch. I used a plastic bucket to carry the top of the truss...like so.
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Excuse all the dirt on the bucket...it's been sitting outside full of water for ages.

Here's the bottom of the truss sitting on a sawhorse. There are two screws, one on either side at the bottom to prevent any possible slipping. They don't actually hold the truss in any way.
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Outside the loaded area of the truss I attached a piece of wood to prevent the truss from falling sideways while I was adding all the weight for the test.
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A bucket was hung from the center of the truss and two screws were put in the top of the truss to prevent it sliding down.

You can see that the bucket doesn't rest on anything here. Now if I had had a scantily clad assistant to wave those fancy handkerchiefs and hoops around, you could see I wasn't kidding.
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I didn't think that water alone was going to be heavy enough for a good test, so I put in a good pile of cut concrete pavers and tile first, then filled the bucket with water.
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The truss was designed and built with a small upcurve in it, which I anticipated would straighten out once it was loaded. Not so, the curve remained...not sure if it is clearly visible here or not. Kind of an awkward pic to take.
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The weight was left there for some time, and since nothing untoward seemed to be happening - other than the weather started closing in - I took the bucket off and weighed it. Fifty-six pounds!
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The construction of the full size truss will have 2 x 4 top and bottom chords, 4 foot long sections of 7/16" OSB applied alternately to each side. An overlap of 1 1/2 between the two sides will allow for the installation of a vertical 2 x 4 to connect the ends of each section of OSB, thus helping to maintain load continuity and stability.

I think the pic shows how this works.
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