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Something else about "plumber's putty" has just occurred to me. I suppose one should always use "fresh" plumber's putty for such projects.
Last year I replaced both sink-drain cups in my wife's kitchen sink. I had some plumber's putty in the garage that came from God only knows where. It seemed a little firm to me when I took some out of the container that it had been in for God only knows how long. So I had a flash of genius and I microwaved the stuff to soften it. Soften it it did. I installed the drain cups and went on with my life.
About three weeks later both sinks were leaking into the cabinet below.
So...I removed the cups (once again) and the plumber's putty was hard as a rock. Keep in mind we live about twelve miles from town so running to the local hardware store isn't always an option when time is of the essence, which is why I used the old putty to begin with.
So in conclusion I would suggest that no one ever cook the putty before using it. Cooked/microwaved putty doesn't seem to have any real life span at all. 
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Something else about "plumber's putty" has just occurred to me. I suppose one should always use "fresh" plumber's putty for such projects.
Last year I replaced both sink-drain cups in my wife's kitchen sink. I had some plumber's putty in the garage that came from God only knows where. It seemed a little firm to me when I took some out of the container that it had been in for God only knows how long. So I had a flash of genius and I microwaved the stuff to soften it. Soften it it did. I installed the drain cups and went on with my life.
About three weeks later both sinks were leaking into the cabinet below.
So...I removed the cups (once again) and the plumber's putty was hard as a rock. Keep in mind we live about twelve miles from town so running to the local hardware store isn't always an option when time is of the essence, which is why I used the old putty to begin with.
So in conclusion I would suggest that no one ever cook the putty before using it. Cooked/microwaved putty doesn't seem to have any real life span at all. |
That sounds about like something I would do, we have a lot in common.
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So I had a flash of genius and I microwaved the stuff to soften it. Soften it it did. I installed the drain cups and went on with my life.
About three weeks later both sinks were leaking into the cabinet below.
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Luckily for me I didn't even think to nuke the putty. I have a very old tub of putty and a new one. The old one is all but unusable, but the new one seemed to be just fine, and so far the tub doesn't leak...yet. 
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12-13-2012, 02:26 PM
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Any of you guys good on water pumps?
New 1/2 h.p. jet pump is leaking between the pump body and the motor. One drip every 1/2 minute or so.
The two bottom bolts were loose by maybe 1/2 a turn, but that's all.
Do you know if it can be fixed with plumber's putty, or will I need to make a gasket? I haven't taken it apart yet to see what's inside for a gasket. Another bad day at the pump factory I guess.
Hmmm...not the best photo. Look just below the numbers on the side of the pump body, and you can just make out the drip forming.
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Reason: Lousy pic.
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12-13-2012, 02:50 PM
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I would deflect and collect the dripping water and give it a couple of days. It could very well seal itself. 
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It looks like it is sealed with an "O" ring, maybe the casting is rough there. I am with Bud though, sometimes they will seal on their own after a while, hopefully yours will also.
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Doing nothing is my kind of fix. I'll give that a go.
Jim, the pump is undoubtedly made in China, even though it has a Canadian brand on it. Never thought of an O-ring, but that could well be right. If that's the case, then I will need to get another one next time I'm in town.
In the mean time, I will have the cleanest plywood floor you ever saw! 
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12-13-2012, 03:47 PM
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Just out of curiosity what is the hardness of your water (if you might know)? You use nothing but rainwater isn't that correct?
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12-13-2012, 03:55 PM
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I should have continued, but you know all of this anyway.
As I remember, you do store rainwater and of course rainwater is soft water for all intents and purposes. When tiny leaks such as yours seal themselves it is the minerals in the water that actually do the sealing. If you were using groundwater then you have a greater chance of the leak sealing on its own with the minerals that would be present.
I know I know - Preaching to the choir!
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Never checked it Bud, but close to 7 I would think. Pure rainwater, just run through three filters.
A 30 micron to take out the 2 x 4's, a 5 micron to take out smaller junk, and a 5 micron carbon filter to clean anything else that manages to escape the first two.
It is absolutely tasteless, as in it tastes like pure, clean water.
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...and for those who aren't aware, a micron is one millionth of a meter, pretty small stuff. Or one thousandth of a millimeter. 25.4 millimeters to one inch.
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Okay - soft water, yup, should have known! Probably should dis-assemble the pump and see what's wrong with it.
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Never checked it Bud, but close to 7 I would think.
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Must be nice. Ours is 14 as it comes out of the ground. Our shower occasionally grows stalagmites that have to be kept in check.
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Okay - soft water, yup, should have known! Probably should dis-assemble the pump and see what's wrong with it.
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I checked a short while ago, and it is now down to one drip every 5 minutes, considerable improvement!
And it got this way because I followed your earlier instructions to the letter. No point in upsetting the apple cart at this stage.
Let's see...one drip in 5 minutes...12 drips an hour...288 drips in a day. Less evaporation...that equals about a thimblefull per day. I think I'll continue to follow your earlier instructions. 
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I'm guessing this is spam Jim. Right above.
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I'm guessing this is spam Jim. Right above.
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