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Old 10-30-2012, 05:50 PM   #7036
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Just heard on a local radio talk show that President Obama has appointed the UN (United Nations) to provide more than four hundred “election poll observers” to standby at various polling places throughout the U.S. These observers will be wearing blue (UN) helmets and possessing side-arms (to protect themselves).
I wonder what his reasoning is for that?

Here in Canada, we have scrutineers at all the polling stations. They are right inside the area where the votes are cast - although they cannot see inside an actual polling booth.

I have heard of there being outside "observers" over in the far eastern countries in the past, and I cannot remember if these were UN personnel or not. I seem to think they might have been.

Could your President not have assigned your armed forces to do the job? And why would he only have a few hundred when surely you must have tens of thousands of polling stations across the country?

Now to make this a proper post, Bud I have a question about tile.

I just got two tile items, one a soap holder, the other a TP holder. I should have got them before I tiled all the walls. Just ran into these at Habitat a few days ago for $2 each.

Is it possible to stick these things (with thinset) on top of an existing tile? Or do I need to cut out a chunk of tile and stick them directly on the backing. I know the second way is the right way, just wondering if they will actually adhere to the face of another tile. Gracias.
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I can answer that question for you Keith.

You need to remove the tiles from the entire wall and 1/2 of the tiles from all other walls. Sorry.

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I can answer that question for you Keith.

You need to remove the tiles from the entire wall and 1/2 of the tiles from all other walls. Sorry.

Is there any particular wall I can leave alone? Or should I just start from scratch?
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Is it possible to stick these things (with thinset) on top of an existing tile?
I don't think I would use thinset, I wouldn't expect the bond to have a life for very long. If you have a means to cut into the tile only-enough so that the thinset will/could creep into the holes in the back of the fixture and the fixture would still cover the cuts you would be fine with thinset, modified thinset.

Guess it really depends on what material is under the tile. If it is drywall then I would be tempted to just use construction adhesive and place the fixtures on top of the tile anyway.

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I guess I should mention you should probably also use a rigid leg (stick) to support the fixture temporarily and not depend totally on something like duct tape to hold the fixture in place while curing.
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I don't think I would use thinset, I wouldn't expect the bond to have a life for very long. If you have a means to cut into the tile only-enough so that the thinset will/could creep into the holes in the back of the fixture and the fixture would still cover the cuts you would be fine with thinset, modified thinset.

Guess it really depends on what material is under the tile. If it is drywall then I would be tempted to just use construction adhesive and place the fixtures on top of the tile anyway.

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I guess I should mention you should probably also use a rigid leg (stick) to support the fixture temporarily and not depend totally on something like duct tape to hold the fixture in place while curing.
I do have the facility to cut out an area of tile to fit these things into, it's just that it would be a nice messy job.

I never thought about using construction adhesive...damn good idea. I have some killer stuff here, maybe I will try that first. Thanks Bud.
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Yow, no kiddin'. When I made that post I have no idea what I was looking at or thinking. At that time I was in a rage over another topic and my keyboard was smokin' at the time. Now that I've cooled off some I can't find what I thought I was seeing at the time. So...nevermind.
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Yow, no kiddin'. When I made that post I have no idea what I was looking at or thinking. At that time I was in a rage over another topic and my keyboard was smokin' at the time. Now that I've cooled off some I can't find what I thought I was seeing at the time. So...nevermind.
Well, Bud, in your defense there are TWO rows of plane blades. So I can see how it might be easy to get them confused especially with your keyboard on fire!
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Got a 100% on the fishing test tho!
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Got a 100% on the fishing test tho!
That's incredible! I thought you might actually know some of the correct names of those fish!
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You shouldn't have said anything Jim.

One went off less than two hours ago and it appears to have been centered right about here. Only a 1.9 though...we can't feel that.
My stars, the quakes are really going strong up that way. I know Alaska is a good ways from you but there was one up there today also. Man, hurricanes on this end and quakes on the other, hopefully nothing will happen in the middle. Hopefully they will settle down up there for y'all.
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Yow, no kiddin'. When I made that post I have no idea what I was looking at or thinking. At that time I was in a rage over another topic and my keyboard was smokin' at the time. Now that I've cooled off some I can't find what I thought I was seeing at the time. So...nevermind.
This just cracked me up, I could just visualize your keyboard smokin'.
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I do have the facility to cut out an area of tile to fit these things into, it's just that it would be a nice messy job.

I never thought about using construction adhesive...damn good idea. I have some killer stuff here, maybe I will try that first. Thanks Bud.
Keith, the way I use to put them in was cut a hole all the way through the sheetrock or what ever was there, stuff a lot of crumpled up newspaper in the hole and gob a lot of plaster on the back of the units, especially getting the plaster in the holes, about two good hands full. I would push the fixtures in and the gob of plaster would spread out in behind the sheet rock or what ever was there. Prop the fixtures in place and let them dry, caulk when finished and that is it. I hope I am remembering how I did it, it has been a good while.
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If I had the two items before I had tiled the walls, I could just have set them in place like any other tile.

I think I'm going to give Bud's construction glue a test.
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Keith, I went back and looked at those fixtures again and these aren't made like the ones back then, these may work by using construction adhesive after all, they are flat on back, those back then had a lip on back that overlapped the tile.
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That's right Jim...they are more or less flat with some indents that will hold extra adhesive. No chance to try that today, still trying to get the plumbing hooked up.

I am having to make sub-assemblies of the plumbing, and then try to put it all together, because most of it in the utility room is not in the walls. I should have that part done some time tomorrow I hope.

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