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Old 10-07-2012, 02:01 PM   #6961
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Bud, is it because it is thin that it would be hard to use on vertical walls? What kind of texture does it have, sanded or unsanded?
The product has a sanded texture but it is a fine fine sand. The sand offers some bulk I suppose. The product when pressed into a grout joint will find any tiny voids that may exist under a tile edge and it will creep into those voids causing the surface to sink slightly. You must pay attention but once the small learning-curve has passed the product is really easy to use.

However on tall vertical surfaces the product will sag under its own weight and begin to run-down slightly. The taller the vertical grout line the less stable the product becomes but even at that it isn't really a major detriment. It is easy to go back and re-apply more product during the grouting process. Not a real big deal usually.

On the other hand...trying to use the product overhead is a different story. The product is applied with a grout float and once one has dipped some grout from the bucket it has a tendency to begin to settle on the float making it difficult to have enough product to force it into the the crack. It is imperative that enough product is pushed into the crack so-as to make contact with the wall surface. Therein lies the major issue. The product is controlled by gravity and begins to sag and slowly drip from the ceiling. It's a pain to work with under those circumstances.

The very thing that makes it a great product (urethane) is the same thing that quickly becomes an enemy to the installation. On horizontal surfaces and on short-run vertical applications it is great.
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:06 PM   #6962
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I see what you mean, I appreciate you explaining that. Just a couple more questions and I will shut up, how long does it take to cure and can you buy it in smaller containers? I am planning to start my shower install soon as it gets cool enough that the mosquitoes won't swarm in when I open the floor. Thanks again Bud.
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:58 PM   #6963
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I see what you mean, I appreciate you explaining that. Just a couple more questions and I will shut up, how long does it take to cure and can you buy it in smaller containers? I am planning to start my shower install soon as it gets cool enough that the mosquitoes won't swarm in when I open the floor. Thanks again Bud.
Jim, perhaps I can answer that for you. The setup time is very fast, just a matter of minutes, so you don't have any time to mess around. The cure time is another story. According to the can that takes 28 days for a 1/4" joint to cure with a 3/8" thick tile.

One other idea that they mention is to have one person grouting and another cleaning up right behind you. This would suggest to me that the set times are very fast.

They also caution against using the product if it is too warm - 90F for example.
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Old 10-07-2012, 08:00 PM   #6964
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Jim, perhaps I can answer that for you. The setup time is very fast, just a matter of minutes, so you don't have any time to mess around. The cure time is another story. According to the can that takes 28 days for a 1/4" joint to cure with a 3/8" thick tile.

One other idea that they mention is to have one person grouting and another cleaning up right behind you. This would suggest to me that the set times are very fast.

They also caution against using the product if it is too warm - 90F for example.
Wow, thanks buddy, that would probably not work for me as slow as I am, it does sound like a great product though. For Bud it would be a real plus on small jobs like he said, no mixing up or cleaning regular grout.
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This evening I watched as there were some thin, high clouds developing and was able to just sit out front - camera in hand - and shoot the whole thing from beginning to end.

I have over 100 photos of this sunset, and if anyone would like a random sampling to play with, just pm me your email addie and I will send you as many as you like.

I picked this one out quite randomly.
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That is breath taking buddy, Thanks.
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Wait until you check your inbox Jim.
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I didn't have anything worth taking a pic of at the house today. Did some wiring on the main kitchen counter, a couple of duplex outlets and a plug for the countertop stove. Made some corner braces for the back corners of the dinghy and put those in place. Another coat of varnish on that window. A good cleanup out where the tablesaw and planer are, no doubt that will be just as bad again by tomorrow evening. And the big ticket item for the day...sunset photos!
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Keith, isn't it great..that 'we' get this Super weather, me for the sunrise shots, you for the sunsets..something that would usually not be possible because of the inclement weather! Maybe September was August, and October will be September, since we do use an 'outdated object of seasonal placement'..called a calendar..that is very ..'dated'..and does not keep up with 'changes' in weather!
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Talk about spectacular, those are some of the most beautiful sunsets I have seen. I saved them and will use them from time to time as a desktop back ground. Thanks buddy.
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Keith, isn't it great..that 'we' get this Super weather, me for the sunrise shots, you for the sunsets..something that would usually not be possible because of the inclement weather! Maybe September was August, and October will be September, since we do use an 'outdated object of seasonal placement'..called a calendar..that is very ..'dated'..and does not keep up with 'changes' in weather!
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True enough. But this record dry spell is a real problem over here.

I see that there is finally RAIN in the forecast for Saturday and Sunday. I sure do hope they are right this time.
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Jim...back to the grout briefly.
Don't let us scare you away from a great grout product.
When the bucket is opened and the grout remains in mass-form it doesn't set up that fast. You can easily dip a float full and toss the lid back over the bucket until the next dip.

You then press the grout into the joint crossing the joints perpendicular. One dip should give you enough to grout about two tiles (twelve inch tiles for example) all the way around the four sides of both tiles. Once you have packed the grout joints strike along the joints with the grout float edge to gather any gobs that may have been left behind.

Then use a white 3M scrubbie dipped in the water bucket then drained for a few seconds. You really can't get too much water on this grout. Water is your friend in this case. You scrub and swirl the scrubbie around all of the filled joints tooling the joints as you go. You then immediately begin to sponge the grout. Drag the sponge over the grout lines diagonally. Drag one sponge side one time, then the other side one time. Never make a second stroke of the sponge after dragging the sponge the first time. You can also use a small spray bottle of water to mist the grout when using the 3M scrubbie if need but that usually isn't necessary.

This grout is really easy to work with, you'll love it.

After initial installation in the case of a shower you can not flood the grout for a minimum of seven days. Seems silly doesn't it. As Keith said full cure is probably twenty-eight days but the grout will be hard over night so not to worry. I can assure you when I finish a shower the plumbers are hot on my heels to top-out and get paid so my jobs may only set a few days before the plumbers top-out and run water. Never had an issue I'm aware of but I wouldn't press my luck either shortening up cure times too much.

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Jim...back to the grout briefly.
Don't let us scare you away from a great grout product.
When the bucket is opened and the grout remains in mass-form it doesn't set up that fast. You can easily dip a float full and toss the lid back over the bucket until the next dip.

You then press the grout into the joint crossing the joints perpendicular. One dip should give you enough to grout about two tiles (twelve inch tiles for example) all the way around the four sides of both tiles. Once you have packed the grout joints strike along the joints with the grout float edge to gather any gobs that may have been left behind.

Then use a white 3M scrubbie dipped in the water bucket then drained for a few seconds. You really can't get too much water on this grout. Water is your friend in this case. You scrub and swirl the scrubbie around all of the filled joints tooling the joints as you go. You then immediately begin to sponge the grout. Drag the sponge over the grout lines diagonally. Drag one sponge side one time, then the other side one time. Never make a second stroke of the sponge after dragging the sponge the first time. You can also use a small spray bottle of water to mist the grout when using the 3M scrubbie if need but that usually isn't necessary.

This grout is really easy to work with, you'll love it.

After initial installation in the case of a shower you can not flood the grout for a minimum of seven days. Seems silly doesn't it. As Keith said full cure is probably twenty-eight days but the grout will be hard over night so not to worry. I can assure you when I finish a shower the plumbers are hot on my heels to top-out and get paid so my jobs may only set a few days before the plumbers top-out and run water. Never had an issue I'm aware of but I wouldn't press my luck either shortening up cure times too much.
Bud, I really do appreciate you taking your time to help me. This is sounding better all the time. Do you have to wet the sponges and will they rinse off with water?
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:10 PM   #6974
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I use a 3-1/2 gallon bucket of water at my side on all jobs at all times for general clean up and to keep my hands clean while setting tile. This same bucket (of fresh water) would then be used for the grouting process. The sponges rinse out easy enough after using both sides one time. I let the scrubbie sink to the bottom of the bucket while using the sponge. That way the scrubbie more-or-less is clean at all times.
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FINALLY! We had some rain this morning. It started with a hard downpour around 3:30 am...and it has quit already.

Yesterday's forecast had us getting four days of solid rain then two more at 60%. So much for the four days, the sky is clearing already.

My friend Finn has been visiting and we got all the rest of the big wood rounds split and into the woodsheds. Also got the propane lines through the floors and run under the house to where the regulator will be. It was a job I was dreading because there's not any decent access under the house. Finn was kind enough to do that for me, so now I just need one more fitting which I am short. He has gone over to Ladysmith on his sailboat and is going to try and find it for me and bring it back here. Nice guy!

Not only that, but he helped me clean up the workbench and move it out into the studio, and then bring the big heavy antique china cabinet from the cabin over to the house.

Good thing he isn't here all the time, or I would be dead!

Thanks Finn!
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