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Old 09-06-2012, 04:35 PM   #6781
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Are you referring to the railing around the master bedroom? The long one up top?

If so, all the wood is a mix of red and yellow cedar on the posts, and just red cedar on the railing.
If thatís the MB in post 6767 then yes.

I was just curious if the post were something harder than cedar. Iíve done a couple of cable rail radiuses similar to that and ended up using 2x Ipe for the post. I was concerned that red cedar would be to soft to handle the tension of the cable in a radius like that.

We have to string them pretty tight though, 3"oc so after the "stretch factor" we're still within the 4" max spacing.

Your rail looks great, I always like curves.

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Old 09-06-2012, 04:56 PM   #6782
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You are more than blessed to have that pristine island as your home!
Beautiful place and beautiful work.
Sorry I missed your post when it first came up...

So welcome to the thread, and thank you!
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If thatís the MB in post 6767 then yes.

I was just curious if the post were something harder than cedar. Iíve done a couple of cable rail radiuses similar to that and ended up using 2x Ipe for the post. I was concerned that red cedar would be to soft to handle the tension of the cable in a radius like that.

We have to string them pretty tight though, 3"oc so after the "stretch factor" we're still within the 4" max spacing.

Your rail looks great, I always like curves.
To be perfectly honest, I haven't worried about the actual spacing. It does the job it needs to do.

But as to the strength of the posts, they are all laminated and more than strong enough.

Ipe, of course, is stronger, but the cedar has a give to it which should prevent any possibility of breakage.

I can't see anyone ever getting anywhere near enough effort on the cables or the posts to be of any concern.

If we had building inspections here - which we do not - I might have worried about the tension and the spacing a bit more.
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Yet another beautiful day chewed up with trying to fix the leak in the boat.

This morning I went out to the boat and was greeted with much less water in the cabin, but annoying nonetheless.
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Once I had emptied the bilge out and wiped it as clean as possible with the sponge, it became apparent that the transducer was not the cause of the problem.
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There was no leak in the area of the transducer, but as soon as I took the sponge out of the bilge, there was an immediate leak down the starboard side (left in the pic).
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There is a sheet of about 3/8" plywood on the cabin sole...very old (probably original to the boat), very wet and very black.

I hauled it out.
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I moved that out to the cockpit in what will probably be a vain attempt to try and dry it out somewhat. I guess it will take several days if at all.

Then there was what appears to be a sheet of fiberglass that was stuck down to the hull. I ripped that off, although it was a bit of a fight. Then you could see all the different sections of the bilge, and the rear one had water in it.
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The last part wasn't much fun and entailed me cleaning out that section of the bilge. It was full of some sort of oily guck. A real fun job to try and do.

However, once most of it was out the leak became apparent. It seems there is a separation of some of the fiberglass about 10" long, and that is where the water is seeping through.

I doubt the real leak is that big, most likely a very small crack or tear of some sort, which is seeping through a delamination.

In the bottom of the bilge you can see a wavy black line, and that's where the ingress is happening.
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Keith, that is going to be a job fixing that while the boat is in the water, but if anyone can fix it you can. I wish I was there to help you buddy.
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Jim, I think both sides of that 'glass need to be repaired to do the job right.

I'll be calling the guys at Industrial Plastics in the morning to see what they have that might help on the inside. If I can keep the water more or less out until I can haul the boat, I think that's about the best I can expect.
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Keith, could you drop a bilge pump with auto switch in there to keep the water out? They even make a small pump that can be ran with a battery powered drill. Hope you can get that fixed soon, that would bother me with my main travel shut down.
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I could probably do that Jim, and I might swap out the pump that is in there now for the one you sent me. The present pump has to be turned on and off manually.

It looks like the forecast for the 12th here is good at this point for an external repair. So definitely keeping my fingers crossed.

Failing that I might have to take the boat up to the shipyard in Nanaimo and have it hauled out with the travel lift. I really don't want to do that as the cost is prohibitive. But if worst comes to worst it remains an option, however unpalatable.

Whatever happens, I will need to have everything ready to go for the external repair as quickly as possible. Things like the generator for power, heat gun, sander, grinder, 'glass and resin, you name it.
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I could probably do that Jim, and I might swap out the pump that is in there now for the one you sent me. The present pump has to be turned on and off manually.

It looks like the forecast for the 12th here is good at this point for an external repair. So definitely keeping my fingers crossed.

Failing that I might have to take the boat up to the shipyard in Nanaimo and have it hauled out with the travel lift. I really don't want to do that as the cost is prohibitive. But if worst comes to worst it remains an option, however unpalatable.

Whatever happens, I will need to have everything ready to go for the external repair as quickly as possible. Things like the generator for power, heat gun, sander, grinder, 'glass and resin, you name it.
We will keep our fingers crossed also, let us know how it goes.
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