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Old 08-25-2011, 01:18 AM   #5341
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I live in Courtenay and there are too many street lights for me to see the night sky short of going outside. Will you be using one piece of cable or will you be doing each section individually?

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Your rail turned out beautiful and your pictures are totally awesome. I accidentally hit the button to your first post a few minutes ago, I may go back and start reading all over again, your island is breath taking.
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Just messin' with this one.
Sorry, but with the border and the pink tones on this image, it made me think of the airbrushed license plates you can find at county fairs & the like around here. Something like this:



I think the original image is just great, though!

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Nice pictures!

The railing is coming together beautifully. Did you have to stand on the ladder on the roof to work on the corner of the railing?
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I live in Courtenay and there are too many street lights for me to see the night sky short of going outside. Will you be using one piece of cable or will you be doing each section individually?
I have two rolls of cable, and I am hoping that the longer one will do the whole thing, so I'll be trying for one piece.

If I have a full 500' roll it will just make it, but I can't remember what it is that I have. I do know for sure that the roll that the good Dr. Al gave me is only a partial roll. The total length I will need is about 460'.

And speaking of the night sky, I was outside at 5:15 am and Jupiter was right overhead in clear skies...the Pleiades was easily visible and was spectacular in the big binocs and Orion was above my horizon. To top it all off there is a beautiful waning crescent moon this morning.

So for you early risers, if you can make it out tomorrow morning around 5 am local time, you should get to see the same thing again. The crescent of the moon will be even thinner, adding to its' beauty.
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Your rail turned out beautiful and your pictures are totally awesome. I accidentally hit the button to your first post a few minutes ago, I may go back and start reading all over again, your island is breath taking.
Still a few more coats of finish to put on the end section there Jim.
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Nice pictures!

The railing is coming together beautifully. Did you have to stand on the ladder on the roof to work on the corner of the railing?
Sure did. To bolt the post on and get the holed drilled into the deck, I just used the 8' step ladder.

And while I was at it I cleaned the short gutter above the front door. Makes me wonder where all this debris comes from that finds its' way into these gutters.
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Sorry, but with the border and the pink tones on this image, it made me think of the airbrushed license plates you can find at county fairs & the like around here. Something like this:



I think the original image is just great, though!

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We aren't allowed to use plates like that in B.C. We're supposed to have the proper plates front and back. However, this doesn't apply to semis.

I have seen different plates from Alberta I believe, so I guess they only have a one plate rule.
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Yesterday I mentioned the Helmsman Urethane.

My initial reaction to this stuff was one of dismay. It is so thin - lacking in viscosity - that I couldn't believe it would cover anything.

Yesterday, I got more coats on the bed platform, and I must say it's looking really good. I cannot get a photo to do the finish justice.

Now, on the can it says that two coats will be needed and if a third is necessary...???? A third? Heck, I'm used to putting on 7 coats of regular varnish on outside wood in order to get a near perfect finish.

The third coat covered all the end grain without a single dull spot showing, that was a bit of a surprise. When I checked all round the platform against the light, I spotted a couple of dust spots on the surface.

No big deal I thought, I'll just sand the whole surface and give it another couple of coats. Ummm, nope. I used stainless steel wool to scuff the surface smooth. That was a waste of time. Sure it took the dust spots off, but it barely made any mark at all on the surface otherwise.

I did the one and only extra coat around 10 last night, and it still isn't light enough here yet for me to check the surface against the light. But initially, from what I'm able to see with artificial light, it appears to be OK.

So while I obviously do not have any long term results to pass along, it appears that this stuff is as tough as nails. It doesn't appear to have turned the arbutus quite as amber as the regular varnish does either. More like the original wood colour except with a high gloss.

On the railing outside, my first impression was that I could barely tell the difference between just one coat of the Helmsman on red cedar, compared to many coats of varnish. Of course, that was when it was just applied wet...no doubt it will look different when I check later this morning.

Bottom line is that I may have bought my last can of varnish. I'm pretty impressed with this stuff. Plus it does have UV filters in it and is listed as being good for exterior use. The actual surface of this stuff is much tougher than any varnish I have ever used.

The only thing I do not care for so far is the viscosity. You cannot pick up much urethane on the brush, as it just falls off immediately just like it was water. And yes, I stir the can when I open it, and periodically during use. It didn't seem to make any difference.
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Yesterday I mentioned the Helmsman Urethane.

My initial reaction to this stuff was one of dismay. It is so thin - lacking in viscosity - that I couldn't believe it would cover anything.

Yesterday, I got more coats on the bed platform, and I must say it's looking really good. I cannot get a photo to do the finish justice.

Now, on the can it says that two coats will be needed and if a third is necessary...???? A third? Heck, I'm used to putting on 7 coats of regular varnish on outside wood in order to get a near perfect finish.

The third coat covered all the end grain without a single dull spot showing, that was a bit of a surprise. When I checked all round the platform against the light, I spotted a couple of dust spots on the surface.

No big deal I thought, I'll just sand the whole surface and give it another couple of coats. Ummm, nope. I used stainless steel wool to scuff the surface smooth. That was a waste of time. Sure it took the dust spots off, but it barely made any mark at all on the surface otherwise.

I did the one and only extra coat around 10 last night, and it still isn't light enough here yet for me to check the surface against the light. But initially, from what I'm able to see with artificial light, it appears to be OK.

So while I obviously do not have any long term results to pass along, it appears that this stuff is as tough as nails. It doesn't appear to have turned the arbutus quite as amber as the regular varnish does either. More like the original wood colour except with a high gloss.

On the railing outside, my first impression was that I could barely tell the difference between just one coat of the Helmsman on red cedar, compared to many coats of varnish. Of course, that was when it was just applied wet...no doubt it will look different when I check later this morning.

Bottom line is that I may have bought my last can of varnish. I'm pretty impressed with this stuff. Plus it does have UV filters in it and is listed as being good for exterior use. The actual surface of this stuff is much tougher than any varnish I have ever used.

The only thing I do not care for so far is the viscosity. You cannot pick up much urethane on the brush, as it just falls off immediately just like it was water. And yes, I stir the can when I open it, and periodically during use. It didn't seem to make any difference.
Keith, is the Helmsman Urethane water base? I like using the water based poly better than the solvent based because it goes on so easy, no bubbles or streaks and dries very fast which I really like. It does raise the grain because of the water base but it is easily sanded and then smooths out wonderfully. I don't know if they make outside water base poly or not but for inside I really like it. The down side is it is very very thin like the one you are using.
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Keith, is the Helmsman Urethane water base? I like using the water based poly better than the solvent based because it goes on so easy, no bubbles or streaks and dries very fast which I really like. It does raise the grain because of the water base but it is easily sanded and then smooths out wonderfully. I don't know if they make outside water base poly or not but for inside I really like it. The down side is it is very very thin like the one you are using.
No Jim, this one is oil based - or whatever it is, but not water. You use ordinary paint thinner for the brushes.

The first coat of this raises the grain also, as any liquid will. It seemed to sand easily enough this morning on the handrail when I sanded it. But the finish was less than a day old.

I just sanded and re-finished the curved railing on the front deck. By the time I had got from one end to the other on one side with the Helmsman urethane, the small runs on the opposite side were already extremely sticky. I would say less than 5 minutes. But the sun is out and it's nice and warm today.
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After a brief chat with the foam people today to make sure I had the gluing process clear, I set about getting the two big pieces glued together. The pieces they gave me are TOO SMALL!

The phone will be busy first thing tomorrow morning!

Now I'm sure you all know me as a nice mild mannered old guy who likes to mess around with bits of wood. And generally speaking, that would be true. But I think in this case I will make an exception.

I did sit all the foam in place on the bed - and naturally had a little lay-me-down. I think it will do.
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That's too bad. Considering all the effort it takes to get that foam from the store to the bed frame - not to mention the amount of money you must have paid for it - it only seems right that they should deliver one that is cut to the proper size. They should deliver it and collect the one you have.

Then perhaps they should train their employees on the proper use of a measuring tape.
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I would be hyperventilating about now, I do that when I get really ticked, know what I mean Vern?
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That's too bad. Considering all the effort it takes to get that foam from the store to the bed frame - not to mention the amount of money you must have paid for it - it only seems right that they should deliver one that is cut to the proper size. They should deliver it and collect the one you have.

Then perhaps they should train their employees on the proper use of a measuring tape.
The thing is, the store we got the foam from ordered it all from another store over in Vancouver. So it looks like there might have been some sort of mis-communication between the two. About 40 minutes from now I will be finding out.

You can be sure I will let you know what transpires.

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