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Old 07-16-2011, 09:08 PM   #5026
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you could make up a sleeve using pex or you could even use a pex protector that us used to protect the pex when going through joists. I will see if I can find a pic for you.

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here is the link to a plumbing page so you can see what I am talking about.http://www.pexuniverse.com/store/cat...on-pipe-clamps
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I think tension/ tuning each cable to a different pitch to creare a singing rail is an excellent idea and quite marketable, please include me in the proffit sharing when you work out the kinks(so to speak)
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here is the link to a plumbing page so you can see what I am talking about.http://www.pexuniverse.com/store/cat...on-pipe-clamps
Holy Cr@p those things are expensive . dorf dude...
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They are, aren't they?

However, they are also a mile too big. The cable I will be using is only 1/8", so I think it will just be fed through the wood and that's it.

The holes have all been drilled on the drill press (to keep them square) and they are 3/16", just enough to clear without being unduly loose.
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I think tension/ tuning each cable to a different pitch to creare a singing rail is an excellent idea and quite marketable, please include me in the proffit sharing when you work out the kinks(so to speak)
Tim, sometimes you really do come up with the damndest ideas!!!
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Do I hear "Dueling Banjos" coming from the Canadian woods?
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You could use heat shrink on the ends of the cable for a clean finish. dorf dude...
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I guess I was assuming you (Keith) were up on the various fittings and fixtures that are used for cable decking systems.

If not....
One style in particular is a metal piece that has a tube at one end and a threaded bolt at the other. The cable is pulled taught by hand and cut to the proper length then placed inside the tube and crimped a couple of times. The assembly is then placed through the hole in the post and a washer and nut is installed. This nut becomes the tensioning device. A second nut is used for decoration only this second nut is a cap-nut.

If I'm "preaching to the choir" I apologize.
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I guess I was assuming you (Keith) were up on the various fittings and fixtures that are used for cable decking systems.

If not....
One style in particular is a metal piece that has a tube at one end and a threaded bolt at the other. The cable is pulled taught by hand and cut to the proper length then placed inside the tube and crimped a couple of times. The assembly is then placed through the hole in the post and a washer and nut is installed. This nut becomes the tensioning device. A second nut is used for decoration only this second nut is a cap-nut.

If I'm "preaching to the choir" I apologize.
Bud, it's a good thing we have you here otherwise there would be no lucid descriptions.

I was going to find the ones I have here (cannot find them at the moment) and post a pic saying "something like this?"

That sounds like the same type I used for Dr. Al's deck, a couple of which I have here....somewhere.

The only difference is that I don't remember there being any cap-nuts. I sank the fitting into the posts an inch or so, which basically put them out of sight.

They work extremely well, are easy to install, made of marine grade stainless steel, with a price to match, but very, very nice.
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Let's see if I can pull this off. I think this is a PDF of the type I have seen used.
http://www.menards.com/main/store/20...sy_install.pdf

It isn't the one with the cap nut but it is the same basic type.






Okay found it. Heres's the cap-nut look.
http://agsstainless.com/cable_railin...FchM4AodNRT1yQ
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You know, for a guy that lays tile for a living, you're pretty smart after all!

Yep, it's the fitting on the right hand side in the Menard's link. Haven't seen the fitting on the left side before, but it looks like that one would keep a small amount of tension on the cable all the time, very slick.

When I did the deck in question several years ago now, we had to import the product from Australia as the one or two North American distributors at the time didn't keep any in stock. I suspect that has changed by now.

I see now they have a nice protector fitting which I could have used back then along with the angled fitting.

Good work Bud, I think we should keep you on steady!
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That's what I was hoping to hear. Now, can we talk about my pay raise?

The only way I know about those cable things is they were used on the new home I worked on last winter and I was involved in a few conversations about how to stretch the damned cables.

If it was me, and I was going to use that system, I think I would use the "tensioning devices" on both ends of the cable.

The only problem I would have with the whole idea is when the deck rail makes a ninety degree turn. The cables left of a corner post would have to be at a different elevation than the cables right of the post. Seems that would look a little funky.
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Bud...I had to deal with about half a dozen 90 corners, but I cannot remember how I handled the cables at that point. I believe I somehow managed to keep them at the same level.

Next time I go up there I'll take a look and take the camera with me to see if I can get the evidence.
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Yesterday, our precious Bridie died.

I prefer not to give any details except to say that it was totally unexpected. For those of you who have a dog, you will understand our devastation.
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