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Old 07-15-2011, 07:44 AM   #5011
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There are already some big fir beams cut on the mill which are supposed to be turned into a bridge. You'd have to look way back in the thread to see pics of those. Good thing I made them when I did, because I don't have the juice to run the mill any more.
Keith, is the house drawing too much power now? I remember the pictures from way back when of the mill and the mini-railroad; it's quite a setup you've got!

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suprised you didnt pre drill for wire thru posts with a template before mounting. easier on knees and back
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suprised you didnt pre drill for wire thru posts with a template before mounting. easier on knees and back
Tim, after I get three or four coats of varnish on that post, then I will drill the holes for the wire. No way could I do it in place.

Their layout will have a slightly different curve than the others, so I can't use the same template.

The holes will be drilled on the drill press, in order that they are all square.

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Keith, is the house drawing too much power now? I remember the pictures from way back when of the mill and the mini-railroad; it's quite a setup you've got!
Do you mean too much electricity? No, it's fine. On any given sunny day the batteries are right up to snuff by noon or 1 pm.
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Keith, Just a thought about how you might run you cable for your railing. If you thread it through one end and once you have it through the other end you could put a cable clamp on it and then use a pry bar to tighten it. I would clamp backer blocks on the post so it would not mar the post. Once it was taunt you could then secure it. Just a thought. BTW your home is gorgeous. Thanks for sharing so many great ideas.
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pretty sure they make nice tension devices like a turnbuckle
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Keith, Just a thought about how you might run you cable for your railing. If you thread it through one end and once you have it through the other end you could put a cable clamp on it and then use a pry bar to tighten it. I would clamp backer blocks on the post so it would not mar the post. Once it was taunt you could then secure it. Just a thought. BTW your home is gorgeous. Thanks for sharing so many great ideas.
Hey fixrite, another B.C. guy! Thanks for your comments and welcome to the thread.

The cable will be run through 8 rows of holes. I'm not sure whether or not either of the lengths I have will make the entire distance in one run. If not, then obviously I will use two pieces. The two pieces I can join at the least noticeable end using cable clamps - which I can hide inside one of the cedar block - mentioned next.

One idea I have for the ends where the cable will be turning 180 is to make a semi-circle block of wood from cedar to fit between two holes, make a groove in the outside of the curve and wrap the cable around that.

The cable would keep the block in place, and would prevent any 90 kinking, which in turn, should make it easier to tension the cable.

If you're anywhere on or near the west coast, you know that won't be happening for a few days...have you ever seen so much rain in July?
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That's for sure Tim.

However, if I can avoid using one, I will. It's an appearance thing with me on this railing and cable.

When I did the cables on Dr. Al's railing (look waaaay back in the thread) I used a very slick little fitting which holds the cable snugly and tightens up with a hidden screw.

The amount of travel is very limited, perhaps an inch or so. I might have one or two of those here.

Something else that could work - using your turnbuckle idea - I might be able to tension between the top and bottom cables with a turnbuckle (since they will both terminate at the same end) and then build a cover of some sort to hide the turnbuckle.
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Something else that just popped into my addled brain...If I set the cable in the sun before I install it, it should expand just a tiny bit. Then in any cooler weather, or when it is in shade, it might have just a trace better tension.

All I really want to do is to make sure there is no real slack. It doesn't need to be tuned to a high "C".
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that along with the howling winds at times would surely be music to your ears........
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Something else that just popped into my addled brain...If I set the cable in the sun before I install it, it should expand just a tiny bit. Then in any cooler weather, or when it is in shade, it might have just a trace better tension.

All I really want to do is to make sure there is no real slack. It doesn't need to be tuned to a high "C".
We think a lot alike, (well sometimes) I was just thinking about how wrist pins are put in pistons by heating the rods.

That is a really good idea with the curved blocks so the cable wouldn't be trying to pull against a 90 angle, if the blocks were finished before hand you could wax them to let the cable slide easier.
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Just a thought......but if you were to insert pex into the hole it might help with the sliding and also help alleviate any squeaks.
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that along with the howling winds at times would surely be music to your ears........
Now that's funny...I really chuckled over that one!
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We think a lot alike, (well sometimes) I was just thinking about how wrist pins are put in pistons by heating the rods.

That is a really good idea with the curved blocks so the cable wouldn't be trying to pull against a 90 angle, if the blocks were finished before hand you could wax them to let the cable slide easier.
I've been thinking more about those wood blocks. I'm likely going to favor a French curve, as opposed to a semi circle. That way the blocks will be narrower and slightly more refined in shape.

That wax idea is excellent, I like that!
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Just a thought......but if you were to insert pex into the hole it might help with the sliding and also help alleviate any squeaks.
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Not quite following you on the Pex idea. Are you saying to make up some inserts from Pex?

I do have a small amount of experience with this (emphasis on small) and one thing I can say is that there is no squeaking at all. I even tried to put some metal inserts in Dr. Al's posts...I used some shelf inserts from Lee Valley. While it initially looked good, I won't be doing that again.

The best, and simplest, was just to run the cable through the holes in the posts. No muss, no fuss and it worked great.

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