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Old 07-09-2011, 12:56 PM   #4951
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my daughter does film mostly black and white and digital doesnt touch it for feel and character. Keith I hope you get to look at your place with fresh eyes once in awhile so you can see what we see. truly heart warming work on your house. timothy
You know Tim, if there is to be any future for film, I have a hunch it will be black and white.

It might be a case of one step forward and two steps back to the age of film. However, the old standard color film has gone the way of the Dodo and isn't likely to return. Everybody is in too much of a hurry today and everything has to be instant, or we don't seem to be interested.

And many thanks for your comment about looking with fresh eyes. Honestly, I never thought about that. I guess from just being here all the time everything is "old hat" now. Maybe that is why we get so many comments from the passing kayakers and boaters - they haven't seen it before.

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Love the shingle pattern. Looks great.

And when you are done with the "water heater" you could have a crab boil. Or better yet, you could fill it up with oil and deep fry your turkey for Thanksgiving.
You know something Bill...this thing is marketed as a crab cooker. The instructions inside also tell you exactly how to do your turkey as well! You don't by chance have one already yourself, do you?
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You are an amazing man Keith, that does look good. I have always loved the cedar shake look and have done my share of roofing with them. Back a number of years a couple of my buddies and myself built a log cabin from scratch way back out in the sticks, no electricity or generator, all by hand.

Skinning logs by hand is some kind of dirty work and a shower sure was nice to have. One of the fellows had soldered a shower head in the bottom of a metal garbage can with a shut off valve. There was an old black cast iron kettle there by the little branch that flowed through the place to heat the water by. One of the fellows had build a set of steps up to the top of the metal garbage can that set over a little outhouse looking building to fill the can by. Man I can tell you that was one of the best showers I ever had at the end of a day.

Now that you have explained about the moon, I understand, I appreciate that buddy.
Not amazing Jim...just stubborn.

I'm going to add a small gutter to the fascia board on that little roof and put a big bucket under it to catch the rain. That way there will be a little extra water caught for the shower.

I'm contemplating putting a bread box type water heater at the top of that roof as well. I could use an old propane tank for it...one more thing I could re-cycle. After 10 years you either have to get the tanks re-certified or chuck them.
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Inspiring project you have there.
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Inspiring project you have there.
Thank you...and welcome to the site.

Where abouts are you from Westernd00d? Just curious to see if you are from anywhere in my area.
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Jim...I can use the wife's camera to take a pic of mine with the accessories tomorrow if the weather holds. Never thought about that until just a few minutes ago.

Apparently, we are supposed to be back with clouds and possible showers tomorrow. I guess I should try and make some sort of gutter for that shower this evening, just in case.

I got all the glass in the shower after I stained the window framing and figured that was about done. Then about half an hour ago a pretty fair southerly wind came up, and I noticed there was quite a draft coming in the left side of the shower - so tomorrow I will need to run a row of shingles down that side to plug the rather large hole. Other than that it seems fine.
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Thought I better get a shot of the side windows before I forget about it. All the glass is in now.
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That looks fabulous Keith.

I have a question for you if you don't mind. How do you go about designing things like the shower, or any of the other unique things you've built there.

Do you look at any given area and picture what would fit or look nice there and design it on paper? Or, for example, do you start with an idea, picture it in your head, think about the materials you have on hand, make a few measurements and build it as you go?
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That looks fabulous Keith.

I have a question for you if you don't mind. How do you go about designing things like the shower, or any of the other unique things you've built there.

Do you look at any given area and picture what would fit or look nice there and design it on paper? Or, for example, do you start with an idea, picture it in your head, think about the materials you have on hand, make a few measurements and build it as you go?
Hmmmm, well, in this case we knew we wanted a shower near the tub which was easy to access from the master bedroom as well. Since the tub deck was already built and there was just a small space behind the wall on the deck, the location was pretty much cast in stone before I started.

As you already know, I did build a door into the wall there to exit the deck, so the location of the steps was pre determined.

Then it was a matter of looking around to see what materials I had on hand, the glass for instance - which determined the width of the shower - and then what the view would be as to how far forward I would make the shower deck go. Am I making any sense?

I could have shifted the shower another 3 or 4 feet forward, but then it would have been too obvious and stuck out like a sore thumb, and I really didn't want that. So in this case, it kind of sorted itself out as it went along.

I didn't want anything fancy here at all, just kinda funky. The other outside shower down at the studio is a funky one as well, so they go together just fine I think.

The rest of the available materials determined how everything from the floor up went together. Things like shingles determined the roof. I happened to luck out with the glass on the side wall, so that part took care of itself. And everything that we stain outside is the same colour. If you keep everything stained like that, it helps the whole design remain cohesive.
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Hmmmm, well, in this case we knew we wanted a shower near the tub which was easy to access from the master bedroom as well. Since the tub deck was already built and there was just a small space behind the wall on the deck, the location was pretty much cast in stone before I started.

As you already know, I did build a door into the wall there to exit the deck, so the location of the steps was pre determined.

Then it was a matter of looking around to see what materials I had on hand, the glass for instance - which determined the width of the shower - and then what the view would be as to how far forward I would make the shower deck go. Am I making any sense?

I could have shifted the shower another 3 or 4 feet forward, but then it would have been too obvious and stuck out like a sore thumb, and I really didn't want that. So in this case, it kind of sorted itself out as it went along.

I didn't want anything fancy here at all, just kinda funky. The other outside shower down at the studio is a funky one as well, so they go together just fine I think.

The rest of the available materials determined how everything from the floor up went together. Things like shingles determined the roof. I happened to luck out with the glass on the side wall, so that part took care of itself. And everything that we stain outside is the same colour. If you keep everything stained like that, it helps the whole design remain cohesive.
That makes sense, just a couple of questions, how do you dress off the top run of the cedar shingles on a shed roof? I have never roofed a shed roof with shakes. Another question is: in the winter how do you get the water out of the lines to keep the pipes from busting? I like the continued theme of your shower with the rest of your home but your definition of funky and mine are different.
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Jim, at the moment, the top row of shingles was just cut in a straight line with a jigsaw. If I ever remember, I will get a piece of flashing and stick it on top - about 4" wide or so. That would keep any rain from sneaking into the first row or two.

I could also nail two pieces of thin cedar together and use that, in fact maybe that's what I will do since the likelihood of me actually getting some flashing is about zero.

Considering that this is a shower, I don't suppose it makes much difference really.
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Jim, a little photography equipment to get out of the way before this evenings pics...

This is a 70-300 Sigma macro zoom. The macro part works between 200 and 300 mm only. Several of the guys in the astronomy club have these lenses.
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If you need more power than that, the easiest way to get it is to hook up your camera to a telescope. Special adapters are made for specific cameras which will always be DSLR's.

This one has the electronic connections on it which permits you to see when the telescope is in focus. You cannot tell that just by looking through the camera.

Prime focus simply means the focal length of the telescope in question.

You could use this adapter on any 'scope with a 2" barrel.
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Here's the wife's Power Shot G9 which I used to take the pics of my camera with. It actually has a bigger chip than my DSLR, 12.1 megs, mine is 10.1 megs. I think Barb has a much newer version which is even bigger yet. Some people have all the luck!
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When you hook up the camera to a 'scope, it's handy to know what sort of power you're dealing with. The tag on the Celestron C4R shows a focal length of 1,000 mm, so that is what it will be at prime focus.
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