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Old 05-31-2011, 06:43 PM   #4711
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I heard that Japan use to come over here with huge ships and buy a lot of lumber. They would pull out beyond the line and process the lumber and bring it right back and sell it to us.
I've heard that too. I always thought it was bullshirt. When you start thinking about the expanse required to house, power and provide labor for an industrial operation on shipboard, it's starts to seem pretty improbable.
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I've heard that too. I always thought it was bullshirt. When you start thinking about the expanse required to house, power and provide labor for an industrial operation on shipboard, it's starts to seem pretty improbable.
Now you got me to thinking, you are probably right, the labor and housing alone would be out of sight. The thing that had me to thinking it probably wasn't correct in the past is how would they kiln the wood quickly, not to mention the space it would take up. Well so much for that.
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More than 50 years ago when I was working for a shipping company in Vancouver, we used to send boatloads of prime Douglas fir cants, 24" by 24" by 42' long over to Japan. They didn't process it offshore and bring it back...they stored it in freshwater lakes in Japan, and much of it was earmarked for rebuilding their old temples.

All the best wood cut here in British Columbia goes out of the country. We only consume about 5% of our annual production within the province.

We are about 15 miles from Nanaimo here (south east) and while our weather is very similar, it isn't always the same. Temperatures are always close, but they usually get more rain than we do.
Keith, that would take some big trees for sure. Is there a reason they keep the trees in fresh water?
It is hard for me to imagine all that many big trees. I was impressed to see 14"X14" 40 foot ceils in an home we restored built back in 1822. We don't have trees anywhere the size ya'll do.
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I've heard that too. I always thought it was bullshirt. When you start thinking about the expanse required to house, power and provide labor for an industrial operation on shipboard, it's starts to seem pretty improbable.
The vessels that were used to transport this superb lumber were originally built in Canada, and after the war were sold to the Union Steam Ship Company of New Zealand.

If I remember rightly, some of the names were "Waitomo", Waitemata", "Waikawa", can't remember the others (it's the old timers...), but these were Maori names.

They used to go into Kobe and Yokohama to offload. Most of the "Wai" boats were scrapped by about 1963 or so. Actually sold to Japanese interests for scrap.

The vessels were originally built to transport aircraft across the north Atlantic during WWII.
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Keith, that would take some big trees for sure. Is there a reason they keep the trees in fresh water?
It is hard for me to imagine all that many big trees. I was impressed to see 14"X14" 40 foot ceils in an home we restored built back in 1822. We don't have trees anywhere the size ya'll do.
Jim, the trees don't rot in fresh water.

I have a book here somewhere which discusses the Douglas fir storage in the lakes over in Japan. Apparently, there are several lakes which were (or still are) used for the purpose.

Many of the Japanese temples get 25% of the structure rebuilt after 5 years, thus they are completely renewed every 20 years. They do this so that the kids today are able to learn from the old Japanese master carpenters as to how the buildings were originally done.

Many of the very old buildings, the one at Nagano for example, are many centuries old and still have the original wood.
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Early start this morning to get the woodworking done on the top of the walls which go around the windows overlooking the bay in the ensuite.

The first part was done a few days ago, but the rest were all completed today. Here's the second and third parts.
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When doing corners of this nature, it's a good idea if you can lap the corners in such a fashion that you do not see the open part of the wood joint from where you would normally look at it. Sort of like doing vinyl siding, you make the overlap face away from you so you don't normally see an open joint.

The corners invariably require that one of the boards has to be cut to fit, and for this I use the Japanese saw. Then I sand the edge smooth.

Rather than use the sandpaper on the wood, I use the wood on the sandpaper. This will give you a very flat and square edge. Like so.
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The last two high wall sections...
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Then it was on to the tiling, and here is the morning's efforts.
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By suppertime I had got this far. There are still about 20 pieces to cut and fit on each side of the door, which I'll have a crack at tomorrow.
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Rather than use the sandpaper on the wood, I use the wood on the sandpaper. This will give you a very flat and square edge. Like so.
Thanks Keith, this is a great tip.

The tile is coming along nicely. I really like the dark tile boarder and dark grout around the light tiles.

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Slow down a little Keith...you are making me look bad.
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Keith, that would take some big trees for sure. Is there a reason they keep the trees in fresh water?
It is hard for me to imagine all that many big trees. I was impressed to see 14"X14" 40 foot ceils in an home we restored built back in 1822. We don't have trees anywhere the size ya'll do.
Here's something that tells a little bit about it. Scroll down to the info by the spinning globe.

http://www1.american.edu/ted/sunkwood.htm#r1

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Keith, you aren't letting any grass grow under your feet, that is really looking good buddy. Thanks for the explaining to me about the lumber under water, that does make sense.

Thanks Barb for the link, that is some good reading. I have seen pictures of some of the wood they brought up and milled out, it was beautiful wood to say the least.
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Hi Jim:

I got the tiling finished on the big ensuite wall this afternoon, so that's one more thing out of the way.

Now I still have to tile the two triangular shaped counter sections. Almost got all the tile cut for that this evening, but ran out of daylight. That will be the end of the tiling in there.
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