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Old 09-07-2010, 09:29 AM   #2476
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yep the sheriff was one of the good ole boys but he is in the pokie now.

I never could figure out the C vs F degrees thing. How much would 10c and 13c convert to? When do the trees start to change color up your way? When they do would you take some pictures of them? If the trees are pretty here in the mountains I will take a few for you. I am a little ashamed to post pictures after seeing your great photography though.
So the "Good Ole Boy" sheriff got his comeuppance...glad to hear that!

Now listen up Ole Jim, if you don't post some pics of the trees, we're all going to disown you.

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0 C = 32 F (freezing)
each degree Celcius is about 1.8 degrees F

10 C = 50 F
13 C = 55 F
20 C = 68 F

Trees are stating to change already, but I am a few hundred miles east of Cocobolo in the mountains.
Thanks for helping Jim out jl.

Next sunny day - still raining here this morning - I will walk down the pathway a bit to see if the big maples are turning yet.

My little Japanese maples, I can check right here on a daily basis. I promise I will be sure to get you pics of those as they turn for the fall.

jl...can you get pics from where you are? Might be kinda cool to see what it's like there. We actually have very few deciduous trees here on Ruxton, lots over on Vancouver Island of course.
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Keith, I will post a few pictures when the trees turn but don't expect much.
Buddy, we could sure use some of that rain down this way although our grass is my favorite color for grass right now, dead. Bet you can't tell I hate to cut grass.

It looks like you will be working inside today buddy, but just think of the cold rain outside and the warm glow of a great wood fire going. Man, I think I'm going to cry here just thinking of the 90 degrees + we are having here today.

Have a great day my friend.
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Old 09-07-2010, 10:12 AM   #2479
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Somebody ought to figure out how to even out the temperatures where you are and where we are.

It's 54F here now. Split 'em and it would be a pleasant 72 or so. Wouldn't that be nice!

I thought you loved cutting the grass Jim.

What you should do is to plant green concrete. Don't need to water it, no mowing, no fertilizing...nuthin'.
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Got the trim all cut out last night, and this morning eased the edges with the chamfering plane. Looks OK.

Now waiting for some floor tile to set up which I did first thing this morning.
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The big pile there is the wood which will be going around the walls above the tile. I think you probably had that sussed already.

The missus has painted the undercoat on those trims, and the topcoat should be able to go around 4 this afternoon. Earlier if I put the fire on.

I'm trying to get the balance of the marble cut for the tub surround, most is done. The last few pieces are going to be the hardest to fit. It would certainly be nice to have a square corner at the back left of the tub.

Time for some lunch while I do some more pondering...
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The solution finally presented itself for the troublesome back corner and all the pieces are now cut.

There is zero tile left and it would have been a treat to have two more tiles, but...that was not to be the case.

The tile on top of the surround is just sitting in place. Nothing stuck yet. That's next.

I hear the missus downstairs making aggravating noises, I had better go and see what's going on.
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Hmmmm...all the marble we have is stuck on. And HRH has decreed that we need to find a few more pieces. This ought to be fun.

Well, at least I can finish the floor and then carry on with more tiling downstairs. Who knows, we may be lucky.
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Keith, you are both just phenomenal ya'll can run circles around a 20 year old working. I couldn't do all that back when I was a younger man. Judy just looked over here and saw your tile work and she really does like it also.

Buddy, that is going to be hard to find more marble like that, it is some kind of pretty.

Are you going to need to mill more lumber before finishing your home?
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Keith, you are both just phenomenal ya'll can run circles around a 20 year old working. I couldn't do all that back when I was a younger man. Judy just looked over here and saw your tile work and she really does like it also.

Buddy, that is going to be hard to find more marble like that, it is some kind of pretty.

Are you going to need to mill more lumber before finishing your home?
Well, thanks Jim, and to Judy too.

We will try the local tile stores first, but I was also thinking that Habitat might have the odd one. You just never know what they get in there.

I am hoping not to have to mill any more lumber, but I guess it depends on what I decide to build. For the house itself, I might need some for a dividing wall I have planned at the top of the stairs - the one where some more of that art glass is going.

I do have all the glass cut to the right sizes, but I think I need to buy a handful of 2 x 4's for the framing.

The only project of any size inside, will be the seat to go all the way around the floor opening in the master bedroom. It looks down to the solarium. That may be another project with a big lamination for the seat itself.

I was just looking at the length of the whole thing...I would guess it is something over 40'. I have plenty of decent arbutus which I can use for the legs and the cross supports for the seat portion, but I'm none too sure if I have enough cedar strips on hand for the seat. It would take about twice as much as that long handrail outside on that narrow deck.

But I think before I do that I should get the floor laid in the bedroom.

If I have to mill anything, it will most likely be red cedar. Chances are that if I spot a nice cedar floating out there in the chuck I will go and pick it up.

The missus wants me to put some soffit on her studio, plus fascia boards, and gutters made from cedar, and...

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Well, thanks Jim, and to Judy too.

We will try the local tile stores first, but I was also thinking that Habitat might have the odd one. You just never know what they get in there.

I am hoping not to have to mill any more lumber, but I guess it depends on what I decide to build. For the house itself, I might need some for a dividing wall I have planned at the top of the stairs - the one where some more of that art glass is going.

I do have all the glass cut to the right sizes, but I think I need to buy a handful of 2 x 4's for the framing.

The only project of any size inside, will be the seat to go all the way around the floor opening in the master bedroom. It looks down to the solarium. That may be another project with a big lamination for the seat itself.

I was just looking at the length of the whole thing...I would guess it is something over 40'. I have plenty of decent arbutus which I can use for the legs and the cross supports for the seat portion, but I'm none too sure if I have enough cedar strips on hand for the seat. It would take about twice as much as that long handrail outside on that narrow deck.

But I think before I do that I should get the floor laid in the bedroom.

If I have to mill anything, it will most likely be red cedar. Chances are that if I spot a nice cedar floating out there in the chuck I will go and pick it up.

The missus wants me to put some soffit on her studio, plus fascia boards, and gutters made from cedar, and...
You got my attention with the laminated seat, that is going to be one really really nice seat, I can't wait. Are you going to take some pictures of the milling process this time. I have always dreamed of a mill similar to your's. We appreciate you buddy.
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I guess if I can find a decent cedar log I can take pix.

So, if the seat runs around a total distance of 40', and it's 1 1/2' wide, and 2" thick, that would be 120 board feet. I would think the waste factor on something like that would be 30 to 40%, if not more. I should need to mill at least 200 board feet of clear cedar. And there's the catch...clear.

I don't know what is down at the mill right now in the way of logs. I know there is a very small log on the deck which may be 40 bd. ft. It's very small.

I will check tomorrow and let you know. And I don't think there is anything in the bay right now. This isn't a good time of year for logs.

And the other factor is that one side of the seat has a gentle curve, the other is pretty sharp. I'll see if it's possible to take a pic from down below so you can see the curve.
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It doesn't look like these pics came out well at all. The outer curve I think has a radius of about 22 feet, the inner I'm guessing 12 or 13.

That means that the wood for the inner curve will need to be milled considerably thinner.

The outside railing is noticeably more gentle than that and 5/8" wood was about all you would want to use there. So 1/2" for the outer curve and 3/8" for the inner curve for this one.

I get in excess of 1,300 lineal feet of wood for that. Another quarter mile.

I don't know about that, maybe I will have to come up with a different system. Laminating another 1,300 feet doesn't sound really thrilling at the moment. I can't remember the lineal on the long handrail, but I think not over 600 feet.

Sorry, I just checked, it's just under 700 feet.

Not only is that a lot of wood, but also a lot of glue! Not to mention twice the time of the one outside.
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Another thought just came to mind...yes I do get thoughts occasionally...maybe I could build a framework, and wife number 2 could upholster it. I like that idea.

I'll make sure she's in a good mood when I ask her!
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That is a lot of wood and a whole lot of work. We think a lot a like, I hate doing the same thing twice although I have many times but after the first one it is not fun for me anymore.

Can you imagine what the seat would cost if you had to buy that beautiful wood (including the waste factor) and then had to pay for the milling, dressing, planing then the labor to custom fit and build the seat on site, not to mention sanding, finish sanding, sealing and all the coats of finish. Good gravy, a rich man couldn't afford that. I think the upholstered seat will look great my friend.

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