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Old 08-13-2010, 12:29 PM   #2191
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Old 08-13-2010, 12:45 PM   #2192
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Hi Jim:

Yes, what you found is extremely likely to be a meteorite.

One of my many hats is that of an amateur astronomer, so I have a small smidgen of knowledge about that.

Even though they fall by the thousands onto our planet every day, it isn't often that one big enough to really see is found. Folks go out with metal detectors to find these things, spending weeks and weeks and often coming up with nothing.

A year or two ago there was a huge fireball that came down in the prairies, and the meteorites that they found were so big it made the national news in Canada. Plus, of course, all the astronomy magazines.

Yes, when I speak of red cedar, that is western red cedar, Thuja Plicata, which used to grow in huge stands all up the west coast of British Columbia. Some of the most massive were up on the Queen Charlotte Islands off the northern coast of B.C.

They still grow here, of course, but the greedy logging outfits have swiped the large bulk of the best ones.

There have been serious efforts underway for decades here to save some of the old growth cedars.

These trees have been known to grow for 1,000 years plus, so no matter what phony PR the timber companies dish out we know that once the old guys are gone that mankind will never see another one.

There are two big cedars growing on the adjoining property to ours, definitely not in the 1,000 year old league, but most likely at least in the 400-500 year range.

We don't get anywhere near the rainfall that these guys like as we are in a rain shadow here from Vancouver Island.

I'll try to see if I can get a pic and measure how far they are around at the bottom.

The reason that the water appears darker as the waves get bigger, is simply because there gets to be less and less reflection from the sky. So, if you have blue sky and calm water, the reflection looks almost identical to the sky, just upside down.

As it gets rougher, that reflection disappears rapidly and becomes darker and darker.
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Here's the trouble with the channel where we are. It is a main waterway for boats of all sorts traveling inside the gulf, as we call it. They go up and down, whereas we go across. We do have to keep our eyes open for these boats, as many of them are pretty big and quite fast compared to us.

There are rules of the road, but it seems the bigger boat you have, the more you can ignore the rules.

So, once we get across after having to deal with huge wakes from these overpowered boats, then we get to deal with the traffic.
So it's almost like you're playing a real-life game of Frogger as you go across the gulf. I can imagine that would be much more difficult than most road traffic situations.

I too am so sorry your friend is going through such a devastating situation. The husband of a close friend of mine found out he had cancer when their children were about 3 and 5. Long story short, he went to an American doctor's cancer clinic in Tijuana, Mexico. I believe he made one trip per month for several years. It saved his life and, 15 years later, he was able to watch his youngest graduate from high school this past May. The clinic has been successful with certain types of cancers, not all types, but if you think your friend would like some information, I'm 100% sure my friends Kim and Joe would be happy to talk with him about it. I'll keep their family in my prayers.

When the crane at the marina was in operation, was there an employee there who ran it, or could you use it as needed?

If a boater doesn't have 'local knowledge' about getting through the water safely in the bay, what do they do? Guess at it and hope they still have all their paint when they get to the dock?

It's nice to hear about that kid helping you with the tile. Like Jim said, you wouldn't see that happening around here very much either. But then again, any tile left at the marina over night would have been gone if it had been around here.

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Keith, I have used the western cedar several times and love the way it machines
and handles. I can see why the greedy folks over harvested the trees, but it is still a shame folks are like that. I have used Red Wood and it machines really nice also. Red Wood is higher in price here though. Here is what our Eastern Red Cedar looks like.
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The color of the above picture isn't as bright as the wood is in person.

Back in the 70s I did some work for a doctor who had the top half of his house sided in Heart Red Wood which down this way is out of sight in price. The bad thing is the fellow used cheap galvanized nails or maybe it was zinc coated nails, any way the nails rusted and bled and ruined that beautiful wood and he had to paint it, what a shame.

That just blows my mind that a tree can live that long. Down this way if a tree lives 200-300 years that is something. Although there are some trees just north of here that the government is protecting and they are about 5 feet or so in diameter, I believe they are Poplar trees. I have no idea how old they would be. I am looking forward to see the pictures of the big Cedars there.

I was just watching the national news and they showed the meteor showers from last night. I bet you can see the stars clear as a bell out on your island can't you? When I lived way back out in the sticks the skys were just covered with stars but here in the suburbs there is too much light to be able to see them very well and I miss that.
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So it's almost like you're playing a real-life game of Frogger as you go across the gulf. I can imagine that would be much more difficult than most road traffic situations.

I too am so sorry your friend is going through such a devastating situation. The husband of a close friend of mine found out he had cancer when their children were about 3 and 5. Long story short, he went to an American doctor's cancer clinic in Tijuana, Mexico. I believe he made one trip per month for several years. It saved his life and, 15 years later, he was able to watch his youngest graduate from high school this past May. The clinic has been successful with certain types of cancers, not all types, but if you think your friend would like some information, I'm 100% sure my friends Kim and Joe would be happy to talk with him about it. I'll keep their family in my prayers.

When the crane at the marina was in operation, was there an employee there who ran it, or could you use it as needed?

If a boater doesn't have 'local knowledge' about getting through the water safely in the bay, what do they do? Guess at it and hope they still have all their paint when they get to the dock?

It's nice to hear about that kid helping you with the tile. Like Jim said, you wouldn't see that happening around here very much either. But then again, any tile left at the marina over night would have been gone if it had been around here.

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Here in B.C. we actually have some of the most cutting edge cancer research going on. The network of doctors and researchers keeps in frequent contact with each other, and sometimes may use people like my friend in an experimental program.

Some of the time it depends who you know, like one of our very good friends here who has just been taken off the experimental cancer drugs he was on for the past year and a half. He is now 100% OK. We have never seen him happier.

The crane was only used by the former marina owner - for a nominal fee - but since the new thugs took over, nobody gets to use it.

It is so easy to use, just a push button operation. Such a waste of a perfectly good resource.

If a boater is coming over here, all he needs to do is to read the proper chart. So many people come here without charts it's crazy. And often, even when they do have the chart, they don't know how to read it.

Fortunately now, the government is making everyone get a license to operate a boat, and you have to answer some simple questions and give them all your money for the privilege of having this piece of paper.

I really have not noticed any improvement in the way operators misuse their vessels. Frankly, I think this has just been another government tax grab.

The local Power Squadrons have been giving excellent boating classes, including proper navigation lessons for years. That's how I learned. You do pay for the service, but it is money very well spent.
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Keith, I have used the western cedar several times and love the way it machines
and handles. I can see why the greedy folks over harvested the trees, but it is still a shame folks are like that. I have used Red Wood and it machines really nice also. Red Wood is higher in price here though. Here is what our Eastern Red Cedar looks like.
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That wood looks like what we used to call Tennessee aromatic cedar, or pencil cedar. Does it have that lovely aromatic smell to it?

We use that to line the inside of closets with sometimes.

The redwood shares a lot of characteristics with western red cedar. I rather imagine the trees are related botanically. They both machine really well and take almost any finish you care to give them, perhaps except an oil finish. I can't imagine that working any too well.
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The color of the above picture isn't as bright as the wood is in person.

Back in the 70s I did some work for a doctor who had the top half of his house sided in Heart Red Wood which down this way is out of sight in price. The bad thing is the fellow used cheap galvanized nails or maybe it was zinc coated nails, any way the nails rusted and bled and ruined that beautiful wood and he had to paint it, what a shame.

That just blows my mind that a tree can live that long. Down this way if a tree lives 200-300 years that is something. Although there are some trees just north of here that the government is protecting and they are about 5 feet or so in diameter, I believe they are Poplar trees. I have no idea how old they would be. I am looking forward to see the pictures of the big Cedars there.

I was just watching the national news and they showed the meteor showers from last night. I bet you can see the stars clear as a bell out on your island can't you? When I lived way back out in the sticks the skys were just covered with stars but here in the suburbs there is too much light to be able to see them very well and I miss that.
Unfortunately, both redwood and cedar discolour too easily. I think that about the only way they won't is if you use stainless steel nails. They are available, but hard to find.

I haven't heard of a poplar getting that big, so that must be a pretty special batch of trees. We have a few big cedars here and some good size firs.

If I get a chance tomorrow or the next day, i'll get pics and measurements.

I think I'm still going to be pretty busy tomorrow getting all this tile right up to the house. It's definitely a wearying job.

Yes, the sky here is pretty clear quite often. We have had a few days with no rain, and the air is starting to show signs of getting a little smoky again. From all the forest fires.

But last night just after 11, I lay down up on the roof and I could see the milky way as clear as a bell. I saw a dozen meteors, and almost all of them left a smoke trail!

And another thing you can see here every night, right after sunset especially, is the satellites. There is one group that goes north-south, and the other group goes east-west. They are at very different elevations...after all it wouldn't do to have a Russian satellite bump into an American satellite would it? Can you just imagine the blame game that would start up if that ever happened?
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I was just heading upstairs to the computer when I spotted the crescent moon and Venus above the horizon.

Took a quick pic, and I think the planet in the top left of the pic might be either Saturn or Jupiter. I should keep up on these things more, but I seem to have had a couple of other things occupying my time.
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I'm glad to hear about the cancer research there. That's wonderful.

I'm sure it's pretty good in the U.S. too, but I don't have a lot of faith in it. The reason is, when my friends husband went back to the cancer doctor here in Michigan and told him the good news about his tumors shrinking and some of them being completely gone, due to the treatments he went through in Mexico, the doctor was very angry at him for getting treatment there.

I don't remember all of the details, but I do remember thinking it was very sad and odd that his 'doctor' reacted that way. The chemo and radiation treatments he'd had here before going to Mexico didn't help at all.

I'm sure most doctor's here would not have reacted the way their doc did though.

You'll be happy when all of that tile is stacked inside the house. Then you should take a day or two off. You've earned it!

Wow! What a gorgeous picture!

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Keith, the cedar, folks use in closets, is what the picture is. It does smell good for about 30 minutes and then I don't like to smell it any more for a while. I have a few pieces out in the shop still in log form that I need to process if I can figure out how too. These are only about 4 foot long though but I don't have one of the fantastic mill saws like you. If I were younger I would have one of the mills, that has always been a dream of mine.

I will check and see if I am telling you right about the Poplars but I am almost sure that is what I was told, they said they were virgin timbers.

As much as I hate to say this, cancer in the US is big money and they could cure people but then they wouldn't make the big bucks. I will stop there as I can really get cranked up about some of the garbage that goes on in the US.

That had to be so neat laying up on the roof watching the meteors last night. I have never seen a satellite at least not that I am aware of. A friend of Judy's worked on the Hubble Telescope when she worked at Marshall Space Flight Center years back. There have been some amazing photos taken with it.

You are sure right about if the satellite were to bump into each other. That would sure cause some sparks to fly and finger pointing.
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I was just heading upstairs to the computer when I spotted the crescent moon and Venus above the horizon.

Took a quick pic, and I think the planet in the top left of the pic might be either Saturn or Jupiter. I should keep up on these things more, but I seem to have had a couple of other things occupying my time.
That is just too cool, you really do know how to use a camera, that also looks like a post card. I wouldn't know a star from a planet, they are so pretty but I just never took time to study enough to know about them.
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As much as I hate to say this, cancer in the US is big money and they could cure people but then they wouldn't make the big bucks. I will stop there as I can really get cranked up about some of the garbage that goes on in the US.
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That is just too cool, you really do know how to use a camera, that also looks like a post card. I wouldn't know a star from a planet, they are so pretty but I just never took time to study enough to know about them.
Telling a star from a planet isn't so difficult.

For one thing, you cannot see stars until it gets fairly dark. Whereas venus in particular is very bright and may be seen way before dark. And depending on where the planets are at any given time depends on whether or not you can see them.

Mercury is always a toughie as it is so close to the sun. It is often visible just before dawn or just before sunset, but it is always on the horizon when you can see it, which makes it hard to spot.

Mars, Jupiter and Saturn are all visible with the naked eye, and they all move relative to the stars - which for all intents and purposes are fixed in one spot.

As long as you know the constellations and the relative position of the planets, they are easily seen. Just don't expect to see any rings around Saturn without a decent 'scope!

Plus you can see the four major moons of Jupiter with just a good pair of binoculars, but the binocs must be held dead steady. A tripod works well for that.

If I get some time I will see where the planets are and let you know.
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You weren't kidding, you do know about the universe. That is interesting to know. I bet you have one of the good telescopes. Our son has one and I think it may be out in the shed, I may check to see if it is. Can you see Mercury without a telescope?

Good gravy, it is 2:41 here, I am hittin the hay. Talk to you tomorrow.

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