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Old 01-27-2009, 10:59 PM   #151
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The next thing was to drill the hole for the sink drain. The destructions say to drill a 1 3/4" hole, yet the drain itself is actually less than 1 5/8". So that's what I drilled.
Now those of you familiar with saw-tooth bits will know that they are for use in a drill press only. Try them in a hand held drill and they can screech across your project faster than a speeding bullet....or is that Superman. Anyway, here is a little trick for you.
Oh, I DO have a drill press, but the trouble is that the reach is only a sneak over 7". The washbasin is 17" in diameter, so that would mean reaching 8 1/2" plus whatever wall clearance is necessary. So that idea didn't fly.
Here's the trick. Drill a hole in a board using your drill press. Easy.
Clamp the board to your countertop - or whatever you have to drill - and use that hole as a guide.
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Old 01-27-2009, 11:02 PM   #152
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And here we go. Let me tell you, going through the MDF was slow as molasses. The plywood is good, it drills quickly. I think the powder created when the MDF is drilled acts like a thousand tiny ball bearings. It is fine on the drill press, because you can really crank up the pressure.
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Old 01-27-2009, 11:06 PM   #153
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In the photo above, note also that I decided to use a screw to prevent the back of the guide board from moving. I used two clamps on the front.
The pencil lines which show are for lining up the biscuit joiner.
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Old 01-27-2009, 11:16 PM   #154
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Here is the drain in place.
You might notice that there is only a single thread showing below the nut. This would be OK except for the fact that there will be a granite tile going on the counter, which will add about 3/8" to the overall thickness. I have traced a line around the outside of the nut. Using the same technique as drilling the hole through the counter, I will drill 3/8" from the bottom of the hole, thus still leaving enough of the threaded drain to protrude.
No sooner had I set the basin in place than an extremely obvious glitch showed up.
The original plan was to use a regular steel type basin here (which we already had) so the counter was put in at the standard height of 36"
After reading the destructions ALL the way through, they suggest a height of 31" for the counter. Sounds like a pretty good idea to me too, so I will set about getting that done now.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:42 AM   #155
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Cocobolo - I just found this post and I'm up to page 7. I was suppose to hit the hay 45 minutes ago, but this is like reading a good book that you just can't put down.

I got a big kick out of your story about the neighbor with the m&m's.

The house looks great. It amazes me that there are logs in the bay that can be cut into enough boards to build a house and even more so, the process you have to go through. Keep up the good work and thanks for posting the pictures.

I'll never complain about having to drive 3 miles to Lowe's again. Oh.... who am I trying to kid, yes I will .
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First let me thank you very much for your comments.
Then let me make it really clear that those logs were dragged in over a period of years. In all, I have cut well over 1,000 logs. Some good, some not so much. But for the price.....
Anyway, back to the bathroom counter. Lowering to 31" was pretty easy, except I already had a piece of plywood nailed on to the small end of the wall, and I had the counter sitting right on the plywood. So it was a bit awkward getting that down to size. The other two cleats was simply a matter of undoing and redoing a few screws, so we are OK once again.
Here's the evidence.
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That hole I needed to enlarge under the counter turned out to be 2 3/8". Now I am so darn sure that I have that size and a 2 1/2" bit somewhere, so do you think I could find either of them? Of course not. So I had to settle for drilling with a 2 1/4" bit, and using a 1/8" chisel to take out the rest, aarrgh!
Looks a little rough, but it's done.
There appears to be far more thread than necessary, but that is only because I tested it with the counter upside down and obviously no sink attached!
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A little after the fact now, but your hole saw for your doors might have done the trick nicely. Is the tile going to be set directly to the MDF?
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Tile on MDF in wet areas isn't a great idea. I would have made your last layer of MDF cement backer board or hardi board.
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What a project!! Looks awesome on all of it!
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Wrangler, I think the hole saw for door sets is 2 1/8". So a bit too small.
Although now that you mention it I may well have a hole saw about that size. Never even thought of that. I think I need you standing over my shoulder to keep my brain a little better organized!

Yes, I have a backer board called easyboard, manufactured by Custom Building Products. I have not used it before. But it is very easy to handle and is very light weight. I will use the 1/4" for all the counters and the 1/2" for the walls. There will be tile on the wall behind the second wood stove and the facing of the tub enclosure in the ensuite. Plus I will put a sealer on the MDF first anyway.

Thanks for the kind comment jackie.
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Sorry I don't have any new photos yet tonight. I have been making up an aluminum and steel telescope mount for a friend of mine. Almost done, just another coat of paint and that's it.
Then there is always something wrong with one of the boats.
Last trip back from town in the skiff I almost managed to sink the boat. There was a problem with the bilge pump, and the boat leaks.
And why don't I just fix the leak you ask? Mainly because fiberglass does not like to set in cold, damp weather. Plus I have to find the leak in the first place. So, for now, I have re-mounted the bilge pump, which I hope will solve the problem. Temporarily. Use that word a lot around here.
I think, just for fun, I will make up a list of all the things you need to be able to do just to live here. Then again, maybe that will frighten me too much.
Got some more ceiling boards ready to go up. Plus the second varnish coat on the last of the boards to finish the kitchen counter.
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This is where I have to jump in and tell you how thrilled I am to see all of this come together for you and to understand from Knucklez thread what you are doing with your OSB... it has turned out great and what a great idea you had.... if I had taken the time to peruse this earlier, I would not have suggested the "gypsy" as a helping hand.
I can't tell you how impressed I am over the skill and knowledge you are sharing and I would have given my eye tooth and more to have had the opportunity to help you "grunt" stuff around, hand over tools or make the inevitable cup of coffee just to get 10% of the skill you have. Thank you so much for your "kindergarten computer skills" and camera skills that are giving so many of us a chance to dream at best.
By the way, aren't those Japanese saws just the best? I have a collapsible that I use at work all the time.. ok, so I can get to Lee Valley every once in a while...
Thanks again and great pic of you ... am curious as to why you refer to your wife as #2... almost seems #1 is in the background somewhere.... (kidding, really...)
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Hey, any time you want to pop on over.....
Most of the grunting is over now, but you may be pleased to know that I had a similar offer from the daughter of one of our friends on the other side of the island. She was interested in learning more about the organic architecture side of things.
Little did I know it at the time, but she had done some work for John Lautner, who has to be one of my favourite architects of all time. He and I share an almost identical philosophy regarding building.
I don't know how I would manage without my Japanese saws. I have about a dozen of them. And I think all from Lee Valley.
Wife number 1 just took off one day about 30 years ago and left me with the kids. And if wife number 2 doesn't learn how to varnish better, I just might trade her in for a pair of 33's. It's OK, you can laugh here.
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ok, I AM laughing, gosh, that was a good one.. sorry not fun about being left with the kids.. that is usually the womens' story.. good on you though..
I think there are many women out there who would love the opportunity to learn the hands on trades and are hopefully getting encouraged to do so.. I guess I can say thankyou to "bookkeeping" in school.. helps in my business but if I could do it again, I would be journeying in the carpentry or electrical trades...
oh to be young again, jeez, never thought I would say that..
Thank you again for a great laugh and end to my evening.. am having a great time going through other threads and tracking your comments as well..
will keep following and hi to #2.. I was raised on varnishing.... and sanding.. and varnishing and sanding.... cheers Kathy

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