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Old 10-05-2010, 12:57 PM   #1201
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I don't mean to take this off subject, but will the landlord supply cupboards and a counter top for the new tenants in your apartment if they can't buy them?

It's so different to think of taking the kitchen when you move. Is that a common thing in Germany?

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I don't mean to take this off subject, but will the landlord supply cupboards and a counter top for the new tenants in your apartment if they can't buy them?

It's so different to think of taking the kitchen when you move. Is that a common thing in Germany?
The landlord wants nothing but rent. He doesn't even supply lights. I'm making a deal with the new tenants. I'm leaving the counter top and sink, and lights. They will fill in with new cabinets. It is modular like Legos. I don't need it for the house. I must make a new counter top to fit my crooked walls. This is very common here. Landlords have it very sweet. dorf dude...
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But aren't there a lot of holes in the walls from changing cabinets with every tenant?

Will you be able to buy cabinets that are the same style and color if you need more for your new kitchen?
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DD, remember what I told you....'evrything will work out if you let it", WOW, what a great 'push' this will be, except now you become "manager' and team, and that might wear you out..but I don't think so!
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But aren't there a lot of holes in the walls from changing cabinets with every tenant?

Will you be able to buy cabinets that are the same style and color if you need more for your new kitchen?
My kitchen is from Ikea. No problem for fill in pieces. Yes there are holes but they are behind things. dorf dude...
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It is very common to treat cabinets the same as other furniture. They go with you unless you make a deal with the new tenant, he needs them and you know who it is before you move out.

I have a very good friend in Paris that moved from one building in a complex to one with and an additional bedroom and a slightly larger kitchen. He went out and bought some units (his were the Ikea system, but similar). Usually the legs are adjustable to handle floor variations and levelness. - Same thing for a fiend in Budapest, Hungary that moved from one home to another. - Just a different practice that makes sense since you buy/rent a home and can have the type and quality of cabinetry in your new location that you want including all of the internal shelves, tools,etc.

It sure sounded different to me initially, but it seems to work very well.

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Getting my kitchen moved out! I'm going to need some help getting the cabinets off the walls. I moved the first load to the house. A long ways to go . dorf dude...
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Hi just to put every body's mind to rest over Shue's roof construction.
The construction is a normal German ridge roof where a ridge beam is used and not a ridge plate.
The birds mouth cuts, plumb and seat,sit on the beam and transfer loads in a vertical (plumb) direction this removes any danger of loads being transfered in a side ways direction.
It is not normal for rafters to be tossed or stitch nailed in Germany but to be directly nailed through the joist with ring nails of up to12" or15" long, both at the ridge beam and wall plate.
The wall plate is it's self bolted into the ring anchor which is a concrete and rebar in situ pored beam which runs the full length of the walls and up and
over the gable tying all the walls together and also acting as a pad stone for the ridge beam.
Shue by adding a post is in actual fact increasing the ridge beams durability against snow loads and the weight of the clay tiles on the roof.
Believe me this roof is going no where. Billy
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Billy, I don't want you to think for one minute that we anticipated that Shu's roof was going to land in the basement tomorrow morning.

We were (I think) just trying to understand the whole method of construction.

And now, thanks to your post, I believe that we have been enlightened very considerably, for which I thank you.
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Hi just to put every body's mind to rest over Shue's roof construction.
The construction is a normal German ridge roof where a ridge beam is used and not a ridge plate.
The birds mouth cuts, plumb and seat,sit on the beam and transfer loads in a vertical (plumb) direction this removes any danger of loads being transfered in a side ways direction.
It is not normal for rafters to be tossed or stitch nailed in Germany but to be directly nailed through the joist with ring nails of up to12" or15" long, both at the ridge beam and wall plate.
The wall plate is it's self bolted into the ring anchor which is a concrete and rebar in situ pored beam which runs the full length of the walls and up and
over the gable tying all the walls together and also acting as a pad stone for the ridge beam.
Shue by adding a post is in actual fact increasing the ridge beams durability against snow loads and the weight of the clay tiles on the roof.
Believe me this roof is going no where. Billy
I've been thinking about you. I was wondering if your still alive. Many friends have asked me your situation and I just said not sure. Glad to see your out of "Lurking" mode. My roof tiles are concrete and not clay so they weigh even more. dorf dude...
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Shu, do you by any chance have the size of one of your tiles, and would you know the weight of it?
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Shu, do you by any chance have the size of one of your tiles, and would you know the weight of it?
They are about 12"x12" and weigh 4.4Kg each, that around 9lbs. I ordered 1160 but ran short and ordered 50 more. Then you have the ridge cap weight too. It works out to about 11,000lbs. Like I said before, it weighs a few tons. dorf dude...
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You got me thinking and I went back and grabbed a couple pics.






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you've come a long way since then...

keep up the good work.
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you've come a long way since then...

keep up the good work.
The way he's going you'd think he wanted to move into the place, wouldn't you?

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