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Old 04-20-2010, 01:03 PM   #661
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Hey Shu:

The old Japanese temple carpenters used to cut a slit right in the top centre of any beams, end to end. The purpose was to allow some wood movement and help to alleviate cracking as the wood dried.

Have you considered adding some sort of substrate on TOP of your beams? It wouldn't necessarily need to be fastened to the beam. Then, if the beams decide they need to keep on travelin', the floor itself wouldn't be affected.

And, btw, if you have your laser itself set level, it should be perfect. In my opinion less work than a water level, which is also subject to being marginally misread.

Are you familiar with the electronic water level? It is exactly the same as any other water level, except that it beeps when you get the second end in line with the first end. Cheap too. I can post a pic of mine if you're interested.

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All my beams are 100's of years old except the 2 opposite end ones, the 4 4"X12"s in my first posts after getting the old roof down. They were fresh 2 years ago and have since dried out now. It happens when you get a roof! Only 1 seems to be a problem so far but I have not gotten to the gable wall end yet. I've located a contractor grade rotary laser that I can use on weekends. Now if I only had a weekend . dorf dude...
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I got off work at a decent time tonight so I was able to get some work done. I layed cork strips on top of the beams to stop squeaks. The ceiling boards are up in the bathroom. Still not screwed down just test fitting. I ran a width of the cork roll over the top to show how the finished ceiling will look. Much better than leaving the gaps open. You can see the difference in the pics. The weekend is looking good so maybe more pics of progress to come . I hope so. dorf dude...
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The cork looks like a great idea, both from a functional perspective AND by the way it looks from below.
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I got another run of boards cleaned up today, only 10 but it's a start, not stained. I'm guessing another 15 or so then the bedroom will be covered. I also need to finish setting the beams at the correct height. More pic's as things get going, dorf dude...
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The pic didn't attach in the previous post. I hit the wrong button!
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The cork looks like a great idea, both from a functional perspective AND by the way it looks from below.
I have been going through mental hell trying to figure out what would work on the board gaps. Cork seems to work the best. I toyed with brown paper, tar paper, cardboard, linolieum, carpet ect... It's been driving me crazy. Cork is the answer. I ordered 120 sq meter, or 1300 sq ft of cork today. cost was 180 Euro of about $240 delivered. Not cheap but ok for the final result. I have to live with it the rest of my life. dorf dude...
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Dorf Dude -

I admire your ability to combine the posts from the U.S. people and the traditional and sometimes often advanced local methods and material options. Everything is looking good and will be accepatable in the area. Certainly much better than going with a "Dome Home" or a "SIP" panel construction that is quck and dirty with little pride involved and that everyone near you would stop.

The time involved is understandable considering you schedule and obligations when combining the traditional and advanced methods is a very, very old structure.

The other Schu.

P.S. - I factored in the delays with your winter weather and the recent "deployement" out of town, so the Open House will be in the summer season when flight restrictions make things more difficult, but not impossible.

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I plan on 3 weeks in Aug to return to the States. I'm torn inside about taking the time out but I must. I just have to get cracking before I fly . Focus and get it done to the point till I can at least move in. Camping at the least. Thanks for the support, dorf dude...
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The pic didn't attach in the previous post. I hit the wrong button!
Of course...like none of us would ever do that! Much.

What kind of wood is that you are using for the floorboards?
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what are you doin on so early coco
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what are you doin on so early coco
I got run off the deck..it's raining like stink here!
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The wood I'm using is a mix of Fir and Spruce with maybe an occasional Pine. It is the junk wood here. I could order Beach, Birch or Oak but that costs a lot more. dorf dude...
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The wood I'm using is a mix of Fir and Spruce with maybe an occasional Pine. It is the junk wood here. I could order Beach, Birch or Oak but that costs a lot more. dorf dude...
Judging by the size of the boards it looks like those trees must have been fairly small.

We are currently getting nailed about $650 a thousand for most lumber here, but I don't think anyone has wild edge boards for sale. Except perhaps a woodlot owner with his own mill. And even then they still want the same price.

I would opt for the fir over the spruce and pine if you have the option.

These boards you have now for the floor - will this be a sub floor with something else going on top?

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