German House Rebuild

shumakerscott · 11-01-2011, 04:49 PM

Ok 1 more. Here is my dinner, Schnitzel with fries. Cost was $8. I could not eat it all. My buddy got King Prawns, $15. Couldn't eat it all either.

concretemasonry · 11-01-2011, 05:36 PM

When I was in Poland my fried referred to the Trabant at the "car that grew on trees" and just showed up after a wind or whenever the country was coming out of a recession. They have no problem jumping a curb and driving on a sidewalk if necessary.

The schnitzel looked great and the Pomme Fritz looked strangely like what you can get in McDonalds. How was the local bier?

I remember going out for dinner in Poland and the bill for 4 was about 2,000,000 Zlotys (old ones) and I never could handle all the zeros that got added from rapid inflation, but I think they got rid of 4 or 5 of them when going to the new currency. The inflation in the past was hard to understand.

When in Italy, swing up the the place that makes red cars. The museum is a work of art and worth the time. Otherwise, try some spaghetti carbonara if you get north.

The other Schu - Dick

shumakerscott · 11-02-2011, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by concretemasonry

When I was in Poland my fried referred to the Trabant at the "car that grew on trees" and just showed up after a wind or whenever the country was coming out of a recession. They have no problem jumping a curb and driving on a sidewalk if necessary.

The schnitzel looked great and the Pomme Fritz looked strangely like what you can get in McDonalds. How was the local bier?

I remember going out for dinner in Poland and the bill for 4 was about 2,000,000 Zlotys (old ones) and I never could handle all the zeros that got added from rapid inflation, but I think they got rid of 4 or 5 of them when going to the new currency. The inflation in the past was hard to understand.

When in Italy, swing up the the place that makes red cars. The museum is a work of art and worth the time. Otherwise, try some spaghetti carbonara if you get north.

The other Schu - Dick

My beer of the evening was actually Czek Pilsner Urquel. The fries were nothing to write home about. We will see what happens in Italy. dorf dude...

Ron6519 · 11-02-2011, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shumakerscott

My beer of the evening was actually Czek Pilsner Urquel. The fries were nothing to write home about. We will see what happens in Italy. dorf dude...

We were in Italy in 2006, in the Umbrian hills. The food was delicious. We had our worst meal, pizza American style, in Rome around the Trevi Fountain.

shumakerscott · 11-12-2011, 12:28 PM

I finally got out today to see the countryside. We went to a town called Bassano del Grappa. Here's a link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bassano_del_Grappa
There are still bullet holes from the 1st and 2nd World War in the walls. They left them there. Here are a few pics, dorf dude...

concretemasonry · 11-12-2011, 01:41 PM

Those bullet holes are similar to those in Hungary from the war and the ones in the 1950's with the Russian problems.

Many people look on them as something to be seen and remembered. The patterns are very interesting. On a house, they are concentrated near the windows where the was a gun (usually a higher floor) since it was a battle. Some places, the scary ones were 4'-5' high in a walls, usually surrounding a courtyard for obvious reasons. Mostly machine guns because of the scatter or they were just shots.

It looks like old construction, possibly similar to yours and is bulletproof and close to fireproof escept for the wood in the roof framing. I wonder why they close the shutters with nice weather and a grad view.

That area of Italy sure looks very calm, serene and picturesque. If you have a chance, get over to Florence that is also pretty and is on a river also.

The other Schu - Dick

shumakerscott · 11-13-2011, 12:29 PM

While I was in Poland I made friends with one of the soldiers. We started talking about home building, go figure

. I was asked about Polish home building so here are some pic's of his house. The foundation is cast in a trench. Cement block up to above grade then hollow clay brick like my house. The 2nd floor was precast slab then concrete was poured on to. In the 3rd pic you can see the reinforcement in the 2nd story wall for the roof beams to tag into. It all ties together. The roof is metal. The outside is 5 inches of Styrofoam then stucco over it like on my house. I only used 2 inches but the same system. The heat will be central wood/coal heating a large water tank. The floors all have water tubes but also radiators on the walls for quick heat. He will tie in solar also. Here are some pic's. dorf dude...

Ron6519 · 11-13-2011, 01:28 PM

Interesting photo montage. I guess with the metal roof, the lumber can be relatively light weight.
Does anybody use those Polyform blocks to build houses over there?

shumakerscott · 11-13-2011, 01:49 PM

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Interesting photo montage. I guess with the metal roof, the lumber can be relatively light weight.
Does anybody use those Polyform blocks to build houses over there?

I have not seen any building with the Polyform blocks. I actually looked into them but the cost was very high.

concretemasonry · 11-13-2011, 01:51 PM

That sure looks like the newer (since 1990) Polish construction. Some real similarities to your German home.

The precast slabs are carry-over from the old Russian occupation when almost everything was made in a factory. Before that, in Poland and eastern Europe, they used prestressed specially shaped concrete beams (6" high by about 4" wide and put clay or concrete filler tiles between the block that also provided chases for running things in the floor. Usually topped with 1 1/2" to 2" of concrete. I recently saw saw the beam and filler in newer construction all through eastern Europe and in Belgium. The clay tile are a traditional Polish material and often 4" are used for non-bearing interior walls that were easy the chase out and run anything in the walls.

The 5" foam seems excessive for the climate, but at least it was on the outside and not the inside.

It sure is a nice home. It sure shows they do not want wood construction. - Did he have any plans for a couple of bullet holes for tradition?

Great photos!

The other Schu - Dick

shumakerscott · 11-13-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by concretemasonry

That sure looks like the newer (since 1990) Polish construction. Some real similarities to your German home.

The precast slabs are carry-over from the old Russian occupation when almost everything was made in a factory. Before that, in Poland and eastern Europe, they used prestressed specially shaped concrete beams (6" high by about 4" wide and put clay or concrete filler tiles between the block that also provided chases for running things in the floor. Usually topped with 1 1/2" to 2" of concrete. I recently saw saw the beam and filler in newer construction all through eastern Europe and in Belgium. The clay tile are a traditional Polish material and often 4" are used for non-bearing interior walls that were easy the chase out and run anything in the walls.

The 5" foam seems excessive for the climate, but at least it was on the outside and not the inside.

It sure is a nice home. It sure shows they do not want wood construction. - Did he have any plans for a couple of bullet holes for tradition?

Great photos!

The other Schu - Dick

The house is new, still not finished on the inside yet. Next year so the owner hopes. Yes he chased things as you described in the floor and walls. 5" of foam is quite normal if not more. People are shocked when I tell them I only used 2". They seemed convinced that the thicker the better. I don't think you get that much more for your money as you double the thickness. Thanks for following, dorf dude...

Andrew Nowak · 11-23-2011, 05:18 PM

It's very nice to see my house in your blog. Currently I try to get every necessary documents to complete the whole procedure of getting permission to use. My construction menager said this state is enough to get permission. I would like to close the all formal case before I will be deployed next year despite it is still not finished on the inside yet. It is necessary to receive opinions of chimney-sweep, surveyor, plumber, electrician etc. I hope I will finish this year.

concretemasonry · 11-23-2011, 08:28 PM

Andrew -

That is certainly a great start and proof of ability to date.

I saw many homes during my trips and clay tile is certainly superior to the AAC (gaz block) that comes out of the old Russian plants because of quality control. I understand the process of permitting and the approval process.

A good recognized local architect could be of assistance (especially if you are deployed), but you have to be careful since there are some that are not much assistance.

Dick (Deek in eastern Europe)

shumakerscott · 11-25-2011, 03:36 PM

Here is a glimpse of where I was today. The DIY link is they are both hand made. No photos allowed inside the production line. Truly amazing machines

. dorf dude...

scoggy · 11-26-2011, 06:30 PM

DD, same power plant manufacturer as in your Cagiva, yes? I would give up my "kingdom", just to see and do some of the stuff you are ==*^) Are you going to go to any of the other auto producers digs..like Ferrari, or Fiat, or Lamborghini??
Cheers
Scoggy