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Old 10-14-2011, 12:47 AM   #166
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Either method for removal works. I tend to prefer sawing the damaged portion and using a long pry bar. The advantage to smashing it to bits is that it will fit in a standard curbside trash bin for disposal, but the disadvantage being that you'll have to retrieve the bits from the crawlspace or you'll be attracting rodents, termites, etc.

If it's not warped or damaged, you might be able to spray it (carefully!) with a mixture of bleach and water to neutralize the odor. I'm sure there's commercial products, probably marketed under the Kaboom! brand name, that would also do the trick. The only problem is that you'll have to wait for the wood to dry out before you can cover it back up.

Edit: Just finished the taping and first coat of mud. It wasn't nearly as hard as I'd expected from all the "OMGWTFHELP!!11!" posts on the web.
It's warped, wife said it's like bubbled up, and the dog pissed on the carpet same spot. He's house trained, just when I left he's been giving the wife attitude, plus I'm assuming since that spot smells like piss, he'll keep pissing there until it's fixed.

Glad to hear the mudding went good. Don't you have to sand it after mudding?

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Whoa there! Do not smash it out with a hammer. You will need to cut it out so that you have a straight edge to match up to. That was bad advice. dorf dude...
I'll cut it, lol.

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Old 10-14-2011, 12:50 AM   #167
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Opinions are varied as to whether to sand between each coat or only after the last coat. Not sure which direction I'll go yet.

Will be doing some more research before I press forward. I want to make sure the stuff's completely dry, so at least 12 hours between coats since I had to fill in so many large gaps.

On the bright side, those large gap fills are also drying from the back side where they air from inside the walls is. lol
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Old 10-15-2011, 01:31 AM   #168
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Keep up the good work.

Wife got the 3 boxes of flooring, she said they look good and agreed that's the flooring we're going with. I go to homedepot.com to order a few hundred sq ft, put it in my check out cart and they tell me it is no unavailable online. So guess we're back to looking for more flooring, unless Home Depot can help a deployed soldier out.
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Smashing it just isn't possible, I'm afraid - it's more rugged than that, even with serious water damage. It takes an immense amount of rot to render subflooring weak and inferior and hand-breakable or sledge able . . . my kitchen's subfloor was like this in spots but most of it was still hard to do.

I also go with scoring it in narrow strips with a circ saw that's shallow-set and then prying up the layers - one layer at a time.

If I were you I'd locate the outtermost joists that are clear of the water damage and carefully expose them on center (or close to it) so you have a partially exposed joist as a support for new flooring. New sheets of flooring must have support around all edges or they will fail and sag in the future - especially if you're doing something like an entry way where water is tracked in.

To expose the joists as a lip for support: remove the area between them (both layers) and once you have an open cavity locate the joists - and with a ruler mark *on the top* of the existing floor where the joists are - pencil in a line to mark the edge of the joist and then draw a more solid line 1/2" in from that . . . then score at this new cut and remove this remaining section to reveal only part of the joist.

This will give you a lip of adequate support so you can drop in new sub flooring and room enough on your partially exposed joist to screw or nail your flooring down. Your remaining flooring will still be supported adequately as well.
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So when I remove the part that's damaged, just put up a few middle support joints?

Also, I was playing with the shopping cart, I am able to order 23 more cases of flooring, anymore over that the website said they were out of stock. So, if it goes through, I'll have 26 cases of laminate flooring to cover around 620sq ft. I'm assuming my kitchen is aroudn 400 sqft, and my living room is 220sq ft and the hallway I have no clue. So, I should have enough to do living room and hallway, as of now.

I did have a question about underlayment, I bought the cheap foam stuff, got my laminate flooring laid down before I deployed, and noticed that it makes high pitched noises when you walk on it, especially if the dog walks on it and the living room had an echo to it.

So, if I order this 3 in 1 underlayment which one of the reviewers suggested, would the help reduce noise from walking/dog nails and the echo?
http://www.homedepot.com/Flooring-La...atalogId=10053

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[quote=Dinggus;749329]So when I remove the part that's damaged, just put up a few middle support joints?

Also, I was playing with the shopping cart, I am able to order 23 more cases of flooring, anymore over that the website said they were out of stock. So, if it goes through, I'll have 26 cases of laminate flooring to cover around 620sq ft. I'm assuming my kitchen is aroudn 400 sqft, and my living room is 220sq ft and the hallway I have no clue. So, I should have enough to do living room and hallway, as of now.

I did have a question about underlayment, I bought the cheap foam stuff, got my laminate flooring laid down before I deployed, and noticed that it makes high pitched noises when you walk on it, especially if the dog walks on it and the living room had an echo to it
Laminate will always have a clicky sound to it, dogs claws for sure. Better underlayment can help but not get rid of it completely. Nature of the beast, Laminate is loud.
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So when I remove the part that's damaged, just put up a few middle support joints?

Also, I was playing with the shopping cart, I am able to order 23 more cases of flooring, anymore over that the website said they were out of stock. So, if it goes through, I'll have 26 cases of laminate flooring to cover around 620sq ft. I'm assuming my kitchen is aroudn 400 sqft, and my living room is 220sq ft and the hallway I have no clue. So, I should have enough to do living room and hallway, as of now.

I did have a question about underlayment, I bought the cheap foam stuff, got my laminate flooring laid down before I deployed, and noticed that it makes high pitched noises when you walk on it, especially if the dog walks on it and the living room had an echo to it
Laminate will always have a clicky sound to it, dogs claws for sure. Better underlayment can help but not get rid of it completely. Nature of the beast, Laminate is loud.
There laminate in the kitchen and it's not loud at all when the dogs walk on it, yes theres a click, but not like the living room click. The underlayment in the kitchen was like extra padding. So I'm assuming that 3 in 1 underlayment will be good.
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Looks like your living in my old neighborhood.
LaGrange area, off of Reily Rd. I used to live on Sable Drive.
Did alot of remodeling to that house too.
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I have no clue where that area is, lol.
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I have no clue where that area is, lol.
The neighborhood to the left as you leave Reily Rd gate. You may remember there was a tornado through there earlier this year. Lots of damage to the homes near Reily Rd.
BTW, I just noticed you are deployed.... stay safe and make it home soldier!
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I know the area you're talking about. I was actually on block leave in Florida when the tornado hit. Apparently where I live, which is next to Hope Mills they didn't see rain or even know a tornado hit, lol.

I'll definitely make it home safe. Thanks for your service.
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I know the area you're talking about. I was actually on block leave in Florida when the tornado hit. Apparently where I live, which is next to Hope Mills they didn't see rain or even know a tornado hit, lol.

I'll definitely make it home safe. Thanks for your service.
Strange... I have family in Fla and went there for leave many times. My relatives are in the Pensacola area.
If you say Pensacola, then that's just too much.

Thanks for YOUR service.
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No, I was down in Orlando. My brother is in Pensacola for AIT in the Navy.
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Well... well... new developments? :D
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I bought around 600 sqft of new flooring, doing wood flooring from living room to kitchen to hallway. Won't be put in until I get home, I most likely won't be putting it in, lol.

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