Enclosing Porch

shumakerscott · 07-19-2011, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joetab24

I'm noticing the gap widens as I move down the board.

so, I am pretty sure, areas that are touching need to be cut back slightly to close the gaps. i have done this for corner gaps, but with such a large piece I am not sure of the best approach. do I start at the top and work my way down,looking for the first piece that is touching and then cut it back a bit?

once I do that will i immediately know if I made some progress? or do i have to shave a bit of every piece that is touching before I will know how much progress I've made? each of the pieces that jut out seem to be touching.

I know you want it to be perfect. From what I see in the photo's your close enough, now set it and caulk it. You will be the only one who knows. After time you'll even forget that you had just a bit of a gap on that difficult piece. Great job. dorf dude...

joetab24 · 07-19-2011, 07:48 AM

thanks dorf....

I struggle with walking away from a step if i think I can improve upon it. But, in this case, I think I need to. Thanks for the feedback!

joe

joetab24 · 07-20-2011, 10:41 PM

so the last section that I will need too scribe is this: (disregard the scraps between the wood and stone. i wedged a few pieces of scrap in to quickly see how thick the gap was)

note: the neighbor put up blinds, pulled them down, never to raise them again. apparently not wanting anything to do with me and my family. we've actually cleaned the exterior up pretty nicely, I like to think (see pics below). But I have been working on this project for a while. I guess he got sick of it.

i am thinking the accuscribe might not be the best tool for this. it rides kind of choppy along the stone surface.

not sure there are any, but any tips for scribing a surface like this?

as always, I appreciate your help/support on this project...nearing the end (finally!)

shumakerscott · 07-20-2011, 11:52 PM

Joe, I use a Dollar store cheapo for scribing things. If I can't find it then I just make one, You can use a Sharpie marker and tape it to a small block and pull it down the wall. Being mounted to the block will smooth out the over all trace. dorf dude...

joetab24 · 07-22-2011, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shumakerscott

Joe, I use a Dollar store cheapo for scribing things. If I can't find it then I just make one, You can use a Sharpie marker and tape it to a small block and pull it down the wall. Being mounted to the block will smooth out the over all trace. dorf dude...

Great tip dorf dude....

Tried it yesterday on some scrap, and it worked real good! Post some pics when I am done this section.

joetab24 · 08-07-2011, 09:05 PM

back from a vacation.

nearing the end of the exterior....

the horiz. piece on the right is off a bit. when I add the white molding the error is hidden. the piece against the siding will be easy since I got the siding profile almost 100% on the interior.

a mistake I made near the end of my work was bigger. I cut the right vert. piece almost a half inch short

I can prob find another use for this piece....

a nice week in Wildwood NJ, but check out this storm cloud

joetab24 · 08-08-2011, 04:33 PM

some good progress today...

joetab24 · 08-10-2011, 07:40 AM

harder to get pics of the interior...still a few pieces needed, but almost finished this section....

joetab24 · 08-10-2011, 06:15 PM

had someone on another board offer some constructive criticism. with this project,I am used to it and usually benefit from it.

where he went I was a bit caught off guard by:

he pointed out that the wall is not symmetrical, and he is correct due to the fact that on the left side the white post is on my neigbor's side. I live in a twin. On the right side, I turn in at the post.

An eyesore? Worth making symmetrical? Just curious....

Also,

he pointed out that the mismatch in color with the other stones, which are almost flush with the ground. I recycled them. They had originally been used for by a prev owner for the wall.

proud of myself for not just tossing them. Using two different color stones, an eyesore? Worth redoing...

I know I need to do more with the garden bed in front of the wall, but I am waiting until I am done trampling on it with the porch project.

Thanks for taking a look

**kwikfishron** · 08-10-2011, 07:32 PM

I think the block flower bed looks fine.

The important question is what does the wife think?

joetab24 · 08-10-2011, 09:58 PM

my wife was staring at the right horizontal piece, telling me it seemed off. i'll take another look with the level tomorrow. does the right side seem off in the picture? i don't see it.

**kwikfishron** · 08-11-2011, 06:35 AM

What’s up with that in the red circle. I’m guessing that’s what she’s talking about.

joetab24 · 08-11-2011, 11:33 AM

well, I've spotted what my wife is noticing.
the openings to the left of the door are about 1/2" smaller (less wide) than on the right side. Don't think I can do anything about it, except notice it every damn time!!

Well, I am learning. Be anal in the beginning and you can be less so later in the project.

reasons to leave it alone
-not street view side, although still visible
-my wife may lock me out if she sees me taking down a section that was supposedly finished

joetab24 · 08-12-2011, 10:06 PM

down the homestretch. lately, i am more productive than my wallet can handle.
want to get this done, though.

did some work on the inside

also, purchased 2" stainless steel screws to start fastening everything secure to the frame. i will be painting the AZEK when finished.

can you find the football in the photo...

joetab24 · 08-13-2011, 10:46 PM

progress today

I now need to get the inside of the door done (see pic above).
I also have the interior section that separates my porch and my neighbor's to finish.

07-19-2011, 07:48 AM	#92
joetab24 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Southeast PA Posts: 433	Enclosing Porch thanks dorf.... I struggle with walking away from a step if i think I can improve upon it. But, in this case, I think I need to. Thanks for the feedback! joe

07-20-2011, 10:41 PM	#93
joetab24 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Southeast PA Posts: 433	Enclosing Porch so the last section that I will need too scribe is this: (disregard the scraps between the wood and stone. i wedged a few pieces of scrap in to quickly see how thick the gap was) note: the neighbor put up blinds, pulled them down, never to raise them again. apparently not wanting anything to do with me and my family. we've actually cleaned the exterior up pretty nicely, I like to think (see pics below). But I have been working on this project for a while. I guess he got sick of it. i am thinking the accuscribe might not be the best tool for this. it rides kind of choppy along the stone surface. not sure there are any, but any tips for scribing a surface like this? as always, I appreciate your help/support on this project...nearing the end (finally!) Last edited by joetab24; 07-20-2011 at 11:05 PM.

07-20-2011, 11:52 PM	#94
shumakerscott Dorf dude... Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Grafenwoehr Germany Posts: 1,648	Enclosing Porch Joe, I use a Dollar store cheapo for scribing things. If I can't find it then I just make one, You can use a Sharpie marker and tape it to a small block and pull it down the wall. Being mounted to the block will smooth out the over all trace. dorf dude... __________________ Today is only yesterdays tomorrow, Now get to work!

08-07-2011, 09:05 PM	#96
joetab24 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Southeast PA Posts: 433	Enclosing Porch back from a vacation. nearing the end of the exterior.... the horiz. piece on the right is off a bit. when I add the white molding the error is hidden. the piece against the siding will be easy since I got the siding profile almost 100% on the interior. a mistake I made near the end of my work was bigger. I cut the right vert. piece almost a half inch short I can prob find another use for this piece.... a nice week in Wildwood NJ, but check out this storm cloud Last edited by joetab24; 08-08-2011 at 09:20 AM.

08-08-2011, 04:33 PM	#97
joetab24 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Southeast PA Posts: 433	Enclosing Porch some good progress today... Last edited by joetab24; 08-12-2011 at 09:09 AM.

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08-10-2011, 07:40 AM	#98
joetab24 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Southeast PA Posts: 433	Enclosing Porch harder to get pics of the interior...still a few pieces needed, but almost finished this section....

08-10-2011, 06:15 PM	#99
joetab24 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Southeast PA Posts: 433	Enclosing Porch had someone on another board offer some constructive criticism. with this project,I am used to it and usually benefit from it. where he went I was a bit caught off guard by: he pointed out that the wall is not symmetrical, and he is correct due to the fact that on the left side the white post is on my neigbor's side. I live in a twin. On the right side, I turn in at the post. An eyesore? Worth making symmetrical? Just curious.... Also, he pointed out that the mismatch in color with the other stones, which are almost flush with the ground. I recycled them. They had originally been used for by a prev owner for the wall. proud of myself for not just tossing them. Using two different color stones, an eyesore? Worth redoing... I know I need to do more with the garden bed in front of the wall, but I am waiting until I am done trampling on it with the porch project. Thanks for taking a look Last edited by joetab24; 08-10-2011 at 07:02 PM.

08-10-2011, 07:32 PM	#100
kwikfishron Mod Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kansas/Oregon Coast Posts: 4,741	Enclosing Porch I think the block flower bed looks fine. The important question is what does the wife think? __________________ A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words Especially In The DIY Chatroom -NEW MEMBERS- Please include your basic location in your profile. Some of the answers given are specific to a Region or State.

08-10-2011, 09:58 PM	#101
joetab24 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Southeast PA Posts: 433	Enclosing Porch my wife was staring at the right horizontal piece, telling me it seemed off. i'll take another look with the level tomorrow. does the right side seem off in the picture? i don't see it.

08-11-2011, 06:35 AM	#102
kwikfishron Mod Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kansas/Oregon Coast Posts: 4,741	Enclosing Porch What’s up with that in the red circle. I’m guessing that’s what she’s talking about. Attached Thumbnails __________________ A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words Especially In The DIY Chatroom -NEW MEMBERS- Please include your basic location in your profile. Some of the answers given are specific to a Region or State.

08-11-2011, 11:33 AM	#103
joetab24 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Southeast PA Posts: 433	Enclosing Porch well, I've spotted what my wife is noticing. the openings to the left of the door are about 1/2" smaller (less wide) than on the right side. Don't think I can do anything about it, except notice it every damn time!! Well, I am learning. Be anal in the beginning and you can be less so later in the project. reasons to leave it alone -not street view side, although still visible -my wife may lock me out if she sees me taking down a section that was supposedly finished Last edited by joetab24; 08-12-2011 at 09:08 AM.

08-12-2011, 10:06 PM	#104
joetab24 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Southeast PA Posts: 433	Enclosing Porch down the homestretch. lately, i am more productive than my wallet can handle. want to get this done, though. did some work on the inside also, purchased 2" stainless steel screws to start fastening everything secure to the frame. i will be painting the AZEK when finished. can you find the football in the photo...

08-13-2011, 10:46 PM	#105
joetab24 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Southeast PA Posts: 433	Enclosing Porch progress today I now need to get the inside of the door done (see pic above). I also have the interior section that separates my porch and my neighbor's to finish. Last edited by joetab24; 08-13-2011 at 10:50 PM.

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