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Old 04-04-2011, 10:36 AM   #46
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Got i little closer this weekend- Took friday off and ran the gas line and electrical. My neibors officially hate me. Between the sawing on the concrete, the jack hammer and the trencher it was a noisy couple of days. I bring this up because on friday night at 830pm I turned the trencher off and the min the motor shuts off the nehbor yells "dickhead" from over the fence! Seriously is 830 too late to make noise- especially on a friday night? I met him a week earlier and they seemed to be really nice, I'm just wondering whats an acceptable time is.

Anyway i put the gas line down 18 inches- then 4 inches of sand and then the electrical. I also cut the planter box down so its symetrical front to back. Next dilemma is the three palm trees aren't centered. My wife says just leave it no ones gonna notice but its the first thing I see every time i look at it. So should i center the fire pit with the center palm or center the pit in between the two outside trees?


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look in the background, thats the tree offset im talking about



oh and the bathroom all put back together and cleaned up- Still need to wrap up the base boards but im waiting for the wife to paint it

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Old 04-04-2011, 12:18 PM   #47
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Looking good. I'd say 8:30 maybe a bit late but I've used a stump grinder until almost 9pm once. If I were you, I'd go talk to the neighbor before you do it again. Mainly to warn him that you will be doing it.
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Old 04-10-2011, 04:37 PM   #48
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demo, demo and more demo. THe deck is down and im worried about the header bolted up to the house. Look under the header where the stucko is cracked. Ive been reading a bunch on decks.com and sounds like i should open up the wall to the house and sister in the joists if i want to support a 6K lb hot tub up top.

I asked the experts on there but there doesnt seem to be a whole lot of traffic on that site. Im trying to find out what size joist and supports I am going to need and how many. Seems like they suggest 2 x12s for most hot tub decks but i havent come across any threads where they are putting them 10 ft up.







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Old 04-10-2011, 06:15 PM   #49
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I can't engineer this project for you (not an engineer) but I am thinking 2"X12" joists on top of two 8"X8" beams under the tub location (about six feet apart) with four 4" steel (cross-braced )collumns supporting the beams.
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Old 04-19-2011, 01:17 PM   #50
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alright i had an arch. help me out with a deck plan. I T'd into water and ran that last weekend. I need to start filling in the concrete that i cut. Ive packed it down several times over the last few weeks and it seems like its bottomed out. Can I just throw 4-5 inches of concrete in the gap and trowel it out of do i need to do some kind of a blend. Eventually we are going to slate over all the concrete but i would like it to look as nice as possible for the time being.
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Old 05-31-2011, 11:31 AM   #51
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man its been a struggle to find time to work on this back yard. I ended up selling the motor out of my truck and swapped a 12 valve cummins in. THen that snowballed into a compound turbo build.



Anyway most of that is out of the way and the goal is to have the bbq finished by the end of july. Memorial day weekend i planned a full day and hoped to have the base blocks cemented in but just huffing the materials into the back yard took up half the day. THe plans I had went out the window pritty fast since the cinder blocks dont measure exact. After a few layouts this is what I came up with.


I was told I could dry stack these blocks and just fill the center with concrete. But every video online shows using some kind of cement in between the blocks. Whats the propper way to do it? As they sit layed out dry with no cement in between half the walls measure out perfect.

THis is may only unknown area right here. THe bartop is 9 inches shorter width wise than the countertop. SO I have to offest the cinder block that will support the countertop and it need to be space back 2.5 inches so that the cultered stone doesnt stick past the granite top. My question is whats the strongest way to connect that to the bar top wall?


In this pic you can see I took a half block and was thinking I could just back it with that but THere has to be a better way to do it.


Also Is it better you use two smaller whole blocks and mortar or cut down a single block, or does it even matter?


Any advice is appreciated, THis is my first time doing anything like this and to make matters worse we purchased the granite on saturday, I needed to buy the granite to figure out the counters since they are pre-fabbed and not all exact. Moral to the story they want the granite out of there within 2 weeks, I want it out of there sincve i saw people taking sold stickers and switching them to other slabs since they wanted that particular peice.

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last nights progress- Im planning on getting the base layer done tonight. Anyone know if I need to mortar all sides of the blocks or can I leave the 6 inch side of the block dry?
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last weekends progress- THe first row took forever but once you get going it goes up quickly













the wall where the bbq is going has a little hump in it but i set up the lazer and scribed a line last night. I plan on hacking it perfectly flat and filling it tonight. Also have a buddy comming over to help me with the electrical.

I was going to use cinderblocks and some thin plywood to creat my access holes. Is that how its usually done? I was also thinking i could frame it out of wood then just beat the wood frame out once the cement has cured.
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Wow! That's quite the project.
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i was going to use cinder blocks without mortar as spacers but i ended up making these wood frames






thought the laser lever was pritty cool.





hopefully these bridges will hold. I was planning on making some matal support brackets but after the concrete dried they feel solid







next is mount the cdx for the counter tops. I chose CDX coated with a waterproofing material instead of hardybacker because the wood seemed a lot stronger. This paint was pink and dries more red.

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well i got a lot done over the weekend again. THe granite guys came in today and did a great job.














you can see here the color is not perfect but it was as close as they had for choices at the prefabbed wholesaler we got the granite from. Its not really noticeable unless you are int he right light and you are looking for it










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now the next dilema is to figure out how to space the access doors and garbage pull out.





I had origoanlly planned on doing cultured stone on every wall but after looking at a few bbqs i think it looks cheesy to have the stainless go over the un even stone and have gaps. A freind of mine just stoned the corners then stuckoed the access door wall so that the doors sat flush and had no gaps. I wonder if i can stone the wall and then cut as deep as the shortest stone so there are no gaps and some stone stick out past the door frames.

Anyone been down this road and have any input?
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What a fantastic project you have undertaken.
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:14 PM   #59
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got a little further while waiting on the stone.

i hate the sink my wife picked out.


i think it took longer to find all the fittings and parts needed than to install it all




i know it should have a peetrap but this is for rinsing vegetables and meat platters and its in an open drain anyway so its not like smell would be any different.
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picked up the stone. took all night carefully unloading it but i couldnt help myself and had to do one corner in the dark- haha


on another note I wanted to bring up something kinda weird that happens every time i work on this thing. I was wondering if you all go thru the same thing. I completed my plans and picked what i thought was the best spot for the bbq and when I actually started setting cinderblocks I started doubting my decision and for the next hour didnt know if I should keep going or rethink my approach. Then when we bought the granite I really liked the choice. It was by far the best and both the wife and I agreed which rarely happens. As the stone guys are starting to cut it up and fit it I had the same doubts about the color, it started looking forest green to me. The rest of the day I wondered if we made the right choice and if everything was going to come together. Last night, as I was unloading all the cultured stone the same doubts crept up. The stone started to look more pink and pastel than what the display looked like. AHHHhhh, I dont stress over much and I kind of feel less manly for even bringing it up but is this normal? has this happened with your project?

When I build cars and pick paint and interior and wheels I have never once doubted my decision. I guess its just the inexperience in this type of work that raising the doubts.

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